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junyor 10-29-2007 09:31 PM

$2.20 sattelite to Sunday 100k fold AKs preflop?
 
I haven't played in many of these but have heard several people mention they are a good way to make T$ so I thought I would play a few.

~50 people remain with 29 places paying out
average stack is around 5k

I figured the average stack at payout will be 8500. Is this a spot where we are folding to the money or to early?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t1560)
CO (t6635)
Hero (t7955)
SB (t5270)
BB (t16950)
UTG (t1590)
UTG+1 (t2955)
MP1 (t14502)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls t400, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t400, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ??</font>

Elon_Poker23 10-29-2007 09:39 PM

Re: $2.20 sattelite to Sunday 100k fold AKs preflop?
 
IMO, RAISE!!!!!!!!!

To like 1600, steal blinds. no reason to play a big pot with a lot of post flop play. Take the 1400 thats on the table and move on. I'm not sure if you're suggesting you fold or what but I would raise hard.

Seventh_Street 10-29-2007 10:21 PM

Re: $2.20 sattelite to Sunday 100k fold AKs preflop?
 
These are a great way to make T$, but I think you should put in a substantial raise. I would look for a fold if you get pushed back at though. I would pop it to about 1400-1700.

Ontario_Tory 10-29-2007 11:27 PM

Re: $2.20 sattelite to Sunday 100k fold AKs preflop?
 
definitely too early to try to fold into the $, and your stack is not big enough yet.

With the size of the blinds, you'll be in trouble if you start folding premium hands like this here.

OT

bucktotal 10-30-2007 01:46 AM

Re: $2.20 sattelite to Sunday 100k fold AKs preflop?
 
avg stack at payout is ~6k or something. blinds will be around 600-1200. 8k is a nice stack at this point.

raise/folding AKs is the worst option and makes me nauseous.

i would push up to ~14bbs i think... but any more than that, i would just call.

Sherman 10-30-2007 01:53 AM

Re: $2.20 sattelite to Sunday 100k fold AKs preflop?
 
[ QUOTE ]
avg stack at payout is ~6k or something. blinds will be around 600-1200. 8k is a nice stack at this point.

raise/folding AKs is the worst option and makes me nauseous.

i would push up to ~14bbs i think... but any more than that, i would just call.

[/ QUOTE ]

I don't think that 6K can be the average stack at the bubble. There are 50 left and the average stack right now is 5K. 29 seats means 21 more have to go before the seats. I'm pretty sure the average stack at the bubble has to be more like 8.6K.

I'd be awfully tempted to shove here, but if you figure you can get some FE in a better spot, you are probably better off waiting for that. You only need about 1 more BB to be in pretty good shape.

Sherman

Edit: I'd just shove it in here and fold in after this pot.

junyor 10-30-2007 02:26 AM

Re: $2.20 sattelite to Sunday 100k fold AKs preflop?
 
I actually raised to 1500 which in hindsight seems a little small for the current pot.

What's the best line to take here?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP2 (t1560)
CO (t6635)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t7955)</font>
SB (t5270)
<font color="#C00000">BB (t16950)</font>
UTG (t1590)
UTG+1 (t2955)
<font color="#C00000">MP1 (t14502)</font>

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls t400, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t400, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1500</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t1100, MP1 calls t1100, CO calls t1100.

Flop: (t5775) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t400</font>, Hero ??

Sherman 10-30-2007 02:29 AM

Re: $2.20 sattelite to Sunday 100k fold AKs preflop?
 
A/I on this flop. I don't really see another good option.

Mark_K 10-30-2007 03:57 AM

Re: $2.20 sattelite to Sunday 100k fold AKs preflop?
 
With my experience playing these... Your play is just asking for trouble.

8K is a TON at this point in the $2.20's.

When the blinds get higher, the table obviously gets super tight and it's easy to maintain a decent stack until the bubble breaks.

You just need to pick up the blinds every now then (Easy and low risk). After this, just fold fold fold into the money.

If I put together an 8K stack in one of these, I get a ticket everytime.

Unphased 10-30-2007 04:16 AM

Re: $2.20 sattelite to Sunday 100k fold AKs preflop?
 
Just push preflop. There is at least 1600 out there. You are pushing for 20% gain. I would push a lot worst than AKs here. As played, just shove flop, 2 overs and nut flush draw... what more do you want from a hand?


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