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schwza 10-29-2007 07:46 PM

how\'s this bluff?
 
Poker Stars, $5/$10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $1,424
BTN: $223
SB: $2,674.65
Hero (BB): $1,747
UTG: $1,558
MP: $1,000

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $40</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $30

Flop: ($85) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $50</font>, Hero calls $50

Turn: ($185) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $140</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $350</font>, CO calls $210

River: ($885) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $1,307 and is All-In</font>,

villain has 970 left. he is tomeski, decent reg. 23/19 or so, no specials reads/history.

homeboy604 10-29-2007 07:49 PM

Re: how\'s this bluff?
 
donk like it.

Jamougha 10-29-2007 07:52 PM

Re: how\'s this bluff?
 
I think this can only make sense if he has a very high 2nd barrel frequency with both air and draws. And in that case the flop call is even worse than it would be normally.

donkeykong2 10-29-2007 07:54 PM

Re: how\'s this bluff?
 
i like it if he s tag. obv depends on the frequency you re doing something like this.

Pasterbator 10-29-2007 07:54 PM

Re: how\'s this bluff?
 
sick flop call.

schwza 10-29-2007 08:03 PM

Re: how\'s this bluff?
 
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sick flop call.

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meaning you think it's dumb? this board is super dry, so if you're ever going to flop there's basically no way you can wait for a gutshot to do it with. obviously i'm usually folding.

Pasterbator 10-29-2007 08:07 PM

Re: how\'s this bluff?
 
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sick flop call.

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meaning you think it's dumb? this board is super dry, so if you're ever going to flop there's basically no way you can wait for a gutshot to do it with. obviously i'm usually folding.

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i think you left a word or two out bc i cant figure out what you're saying.

donkeykong2 10-29-2007 08:12 PM

Re: how\'s this bluff?
 
i think what he s trying to say, is that the board doesnt hit many hands and if we only call with pairs when he bets little more than half pot, we re folding very often here. i think occasionally making moves on such boards is necessary.

Pasterbator 10-29-2007 08:15 PM

Re: how\'s this bluff?
 
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i think what he s trying to say, is that the board doesnt hit many hands and if we only call with pairs when he bets little more than half pot, we re folding very often here. i think occasionally making moves on such boards is necessary.

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but the move should never be calling.

lead, c/r or fold.

c/c is just bad.

mahogany17 10-29-2007 08:16 PM

Re: how\'s this bluff?
 
He's now ahead of A2 and A6 which were two of the hands he will likely have you on. AT seems unlikely now that the T repeated. It's a risky call with AK or AQ for villian, but I think the river has increased the likelihood of him making the call to a level where your shove won't show a long term profit, Cheers, Mahogany17.


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