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fmsr 10-29-2007 07:37 PM

Some river folds
 
As my last thread didn't get much attention, I'll try a different approach. These are some river folds that seem standard to me but were quite expensive. Please comment on all streets.

Hand #1
Opponent has fishy stats over a small sample:

Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5SB, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3.5BB, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7.5BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: 7.5BB

Hand #2
Opponent has a lowish AF postflop:

Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, CO calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4.5SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, CO folds, Hero calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.25BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6.25BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: 6.25BB

Hand #3
Opponent is 20/15/5 over ~150 hands

Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.5SB, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3.25BB, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7.25BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: 7.25BB

Hand #4
Opponent is 40/11/1.5 over 150 hands

Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (9.5SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5.75BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7.75BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to UTG.

Results:
Final pot: 7.75BB

bosh 10-29-2007 08:13 PM

Re: Some river folds
 
Hand 1 i think you should prob be folding the turn as his cc in the sb is most likely mid sc which will have hit that flop very hard. the turn completes some straight draws as well. As played the river fold is fine.

Hand 2 i would probably fold aswell as you only really beat busted fd and if he is not very agg ps he prob wont be 3 barreling much.

Hand 3 i would call any non diamond.

Hand 4 i think you should decide on the turn whether or not you are going to showdown. Given his utg cap and low pfr there is not much of his range you are ahead of here.

MacGuyV 10-29-2007 08:58 PM

Re: Some river folds
 
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Hand 4 i think you should decide on the turn whether or not you are going to showdown. Given his utg cap and low pfr there is not much of his range you are ahead of here.

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I agree. The others are fine imo.

yourface 10-29-2007 09:23 PM

Re: Some river folds
 
hand 1 I check behind the turn vs a lot of guys. that card sucks for us and he could have us beat on the flop

hand 2 I would jam the flop

hand 3 is fine I think

hand 4 call river or fold turn


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