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KCrow 10-29-2007 05:03 PM

OESD - What to do on turn?
 
Villain seems pretty nitty and is running at 16/11/3.75
I can clearly call this turn bet due to the implyed odds.

I've been trying to open up my game and win more hands before the SD. So would anyone advocate leading the turn or even CRAI in this situation.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $15.75
CO: $45.25
BTN: $66.85
Hero (SB): $57.80
BB: $69.95

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $1.75</font>, Hero calls $1.50, BB folds

Flop: ($4) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $9</font>, Hero calls $6

Turn: ($22) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $12</font>, <font color="red">Hero?

Profish2285 10-29-2007 05:08 PM

Re: OESD - What to do on turn?
 
I definitely would not crai here as someone with those stats probably is not betting this strong to fold to a raise. If youre going to c/r, it should be on the flop, where you have the highest equity. Oh, and I dont understand why you would donk here. He is not folding better, and you dont really want to get raised here. I would probably just fold turn. We are oop, and if we hit the A it might scare villain off of a top pair hand.

kitaristi0 10-29-2007 05:09 PM

Re: OESD - What to do on turn?
 
Easy fold preflop.

Profish2285 10-29-2007 05:12 PM

Re: OESD - What to do on turn?
 
Folding pf here is weak to say the least. You just fold KJs to a btn raise? Thats horrible in my opinion.

Hail Eris 10-29-2007 05:12 PM

Re: OESD - What to do on turn?
 
Fold PF &gt; C/R Flop &gt; C/C Flop &gt; B/3B Flop &gt; B/C Flop.

I mean this is a bad line.

Hail Eris 10-29-2007 05:14 PM

Re: OESD - What to do on turn?
 
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Folding pf here is weak to say the least. You just open fold KJs to a btn raise? Thats horrible in my opinion.

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Villain is a nit, and we are OOP with an easily dominated hand. Flatcalling is a serious leak unless you know that you can run over him postflop. Donking this flop and not knowing what to do is certainly no indication of running over him postflop.

Nemesis69 10-29-2007 05:14 PM

Re: OESD - What to do on turn?
 
Calling PF is gross imo. Leading the flop might be ok, but then just calling his reraise sucks. I'd fold flop tbh.

Profish2285 10-29-2007 05:15 PM

Re: OESD - What to do on turn?
 
Whats his attempt to steal here? Just because villain has nitty stats doesnt mean he doesnt raise otb.

Profish2285 10-29-2007 05:18 PM

Re: OESD - What to do on turn?
 
I guess 3 betting would be better here pf if youre going to play, but without knowing his attempt to steal, I dont think is as clear cut a fold.

KCrow 10-29-2007 05:21 PM

Re: OESD - What to do on turn?
 
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Oh, and I dont understand why you would donk here. He is not folding better, and you dont really want to get raised here.

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Surly villain is raising pf from the button with all pocket pairs, I donked this becuase villain folds 22-99 with the exception of 44 (obviously). I'd say pocket pairs make up a reasonable part of the villain range.


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