10/20 flop a little bit of everything in multiway pot
 

I haven't been playing much lately and I'm feeling a bit rusty. This is one hand from today I still think is sort of neat; heads-up it would play itself but things are much different 4-ways... No line really stands out here, what do you guys think?

Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1291
UTG+1: $690
CO: $2159.50
Button: $1907
Hero: $5618.50
BB: $1982

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $90</font>, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($380, 4 players)
Hero....

Re: 10/20 flop a little bit of everything in multiway pot
 

i usually check and see what happens.

Re: 10/20 flop a little bit of everything in multiway pot
 

Lets say it's checked to an aggro button who pots it.

Re: 10/20 flop a little bit of everything in multiway pot
 

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Lets say it's checked to an aggro button who pots it.

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I would just check-raise with this hand; personally, I'm not letting it go regardless of the action on the flop, so better c/r here and get a bit of fold equity rather than lead out and maybe have to make some weird decisions if a K hits the turn, etc

Re: 10/20 flop a little bit of everything in multiway pot
 

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Lets say it's checked to an aggro button who pots it.

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I would just check-raise with this hand; personally, I'm not letting it go regardless of the action on the flop, so better c/r here and get a bit of fold equity rather than lead out and maybe have to make some weird decisions if a K hits the turn, etc

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I would c/r an aggro button definitely, but I would fold it it goes bet-call-raise or some similar permutation. you're pretty much always in reasonably good shape up and down against one opponent and always in reasonably bad shape against more.

Re: 10/20 flop a little bit of everything in multiway pot
 

Checkraise seems fine, you can be in bad shape but I like to gamble.

Dont like betting out,
if you get a caller the stack sizes give you very tricky decisions on the turn,
not what you are aiming for oop.

The checkraise kills the position problem, makes the hand easy to play.

Re: 10/20 flop a little bit of everything in multiway pot
 

How much fold equity do you think we could get from just leading for $300 or less here? It gives the short stack (preflop raiser) the ability to raise (shove) and puts any deeper stack in a very tough spot for a relatively cheap price (if he shoves).

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Am I the only one here that would pot that flop?

Re: 10/20 flop a little bit of everything in multiway pot
 

i dont see anything wrong with leading out.

bet the pot.

theres no way your drawing dead in a worst case scenario. chances are, your drawing pretty decent if you dont have the best hand on the flop.

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oops, didnt notice button called pre flop. that changes things for sure.

gee cmyr, how the hell did you get yourself into this one?

well, if you know the button is aggro and he's going to bet, then of course check raise........but the others would know he's agro too and could be waiting just for that and you could get caught in the middle.

i think a check on the flop is the more prudent play. hands are like buses, just wait and another one will come.

this hand is filled with too many question marks. when there is too many question marks, i like to sway towards avoidance. possibly getting off this hand is not going to ruin your career.

check and see what happens and then flip a coin. its real close.