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Paul Levy 10-28-2007 04:05 PM

NL200, straight on the river facing tricky bet
 
Early in the session, no reads on villain, I've already raised light out of position a few times.

PokerStars Pot-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB ($198)
BB ($117)
UTG ($356.90)
UTG+1 ($105.25)
MP1 ($148.15)
<font color="#C00000">MP2 ($182.95)</font>
CO ($317.30)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($197)</font>

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, SB calls $5, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $4.

Flop: ($20) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $11</font>, SB folds, MP2 calls $11.

Turn: ($42) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $20</font>, Hero calls $20.

River: ($82) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $50</font>, Hero ?

ncboiler 10-28-2007 04:17 PM

Re: NL200, straight on the river facing tricky bet
 
I just call. If villain turned a FH I think he would try to check raise. He probably hit trips and doesn't even think about the possibility you hit a straight.

Split Suit 10-28-2007 04:22 PM

Re: NL200, straight on the river facing tricky bet
 
icky. i just call here. the flush filled up, the board was filled up. i dont think we will b good here all the time, but enuff of the time to breakeven on the call.

also, raise more PF if ur going to attack limpers (4+1 rule)

ncboiler 10-28-2007 04:27 PM

Re: NL200, straight on the river facing tricky bet
 
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icky. i just call here. the flush filled up, the board was filled up. i dont think we will b good here all the time, but enuff of the time to breakeven on the call.

also, raise more PF if ur going to attack limpers (4+1 rule)

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I'm not so worried about a flush. If he was on a flush draw why would he lead the turn? OP has showed strenght th entire time so it's notlike he is going to push him off of a hand on a flush draw.

Split Suit 10-28-2007 04:31 PM

Re: NL200, straight on the river facing tricky bet
 
i dont think too much strength has been showed yet. we small raised pf (3x in that spot is very small) and 1/2PSB CB.

villians hand looks a lot like TXhh

ncboiler 10-28-2007 04:40 PM

Re: NL200, straight on the river facing tricky bet
 
[ QUOTE ]
i dont think too much strength has been showed yet. we small raised pf (3x in that spot is very small) and 1/2PSB CB.

villians hand looks a lot like TXhh

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You don't think he would check raise the turn with this or does he not do it because he doesn't want OP to fold? ie. Leading shows less strength than a check raise.

Split Suit 10-28-2007 04:46 PM

Re: NL200, straight on the river facing tricky bet
 
i very much agree that CR &gt; lead as far as strength portrayed in concerned.

however, i think ur standard villian just creamed his pants with this kind of hand (JThh-esque), and felt he needed to keep u in with his "sneaky" 1/2PSB. I just see this done with that kind of hand often.

or...hes just blockin the turn OOP with a FD (which i also see often, esp ~1/2PSB). either way, hes banging away on a terrible river card, and a push/raise only gets us called by worse, and rly only worst he calls with is AT, which i think folds. (and altho i dont think villian is a numbnuts, i have to assume he can at least slightly read the board, and him leading on that card is a buttload of strength)

Paul Levy 10-29-2007 04:09 PM

Re: NL200, straight on the river facing tricky bet
 
Very good analysis. For the results: I called the river bet and villain showed Kh3h for a flush. I wasn't really expecting that, that turn bet had me rather think he had hit trip 10s.


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