AA on very dangerous board
 

No reads on villian. How would you play the hand?
Call the raise, and re-evaluate turn? Push on the flop? Fold?

******* Hand 1 ********

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.1/$0.2
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $32
CO: $20
Button: $40
HERO: $35
BB: $40

Pre-flop: (5 players) HERO is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $0.6</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">HERO raises to $1.6</font>, BB folds, CO calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($3.4, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">HERO bets $3.4</font>,<font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $8</font>,HERO?


Results:
Final pot: $

Re: AA on very dangerous board
 

RR pot... push...

oh, wow, didnt notice you were that deep... uhm... atleast call and see what he does on the turn.. still id raise here probably. KK/QQ/JJ/TT .. you beat them all

Re: AA on very dangerous board
 

Shove, lots of draws, villain can easily have an overpair as well.

Re: AA on very dangerous board
 

I shoved, waiting with the results, but how would you play if we both had 200BB behind?

Re: AA on very dangerous board
 

Almost definitely still playing for stacks unless I have a read that villain doesnt play overpairs like this. If this is ever a draw or an overpair, which it usually is, then its time to felt it.

Re: AA on very dangerous board
 

push. u beat 77+ + all drawing hands, u only lose to 44, 55, 66, 78, 23 and there's only ~10$ left to bet.

Re: AA on very dangerous board
 

Yeah, push. I probably raise to 2 preflop. It will make it a little easier to get stacks in. CO only raised 3x and then you raised less than 3x his bet.

Re: AA on very dangerous board
 

Your pre-flop 3-bet should be higher. 2-2.40 sounds about right. As far as this hand, shoving is fine. If your pre-flop 3bet had been higher, you could have really cut down the implied odds for villain to catch a set. As played, he had the odds.

With 200bb, there is no way to reasonably play without offering villain set odds. We can aim for a final pot size that represents a decent but less than 400bb pot. That said, I 3-bet to 2.2. Then I would just call his flop raise. I would aim to put in about 125-140bb, making a 250-280bb pot. If he sets on me, he makes a small but not enormous profit and hopefully I get decent value the times he has smaller pair unimproved.

Re: AA on very dangerous board
 

do you know how he plays his draws?

PF 3bet at least pot. I'd say in most situations just push. His range is something like strong draws, JJ+, and sets.

Re: AA on very dangerous board
 

I do not know how he play his draws. Yes, the preflop raise is a little bit small, usually i make it to at least $1.8 here. Dont really know why i made it less..