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People_Mover 10-28-2007 01:25 AM

Value bet this river or check behind? NLCASH
 
Villian is a pretty big donkey. Floats everything, never folds preflop. Calls down with any pair. He has 110.00 left on the river.

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $181.50
Hero (SB): $996.70

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $12</font>, BB calls $8

Flop: ($24) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $18</font>, BB calls $18

Turn: ($60) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $42</font>, BB calls $42

River: ($144) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks

ghettointlectual 10-28-2007 01:59 AM

Re: Value bet this river or check behind?
 
I think you answered your own question in the reads that you gave. "Villain calls down with any pair" So value bet If he shows up with a backdoor flush draw or some two pair, shrug and move on, it happens

how_can_losing? 10-28-2007 04:35 AM

Re: Value bet this river or check behind?
 
I disagree. You may get called by worse here, but why bother betting in this spot when you will be able to value bet him to death with second pair or better on a less scary board sometime in the next ten hands? If he calls down with any pair, he may call down with two pair, set, straight, or flush. Just my two cents.

hcl

Vinetou 10-28-2007 04:57 AM

Re: Value bet this river or check behind?
 
I shove here, but remember that even the biggest donks are afraid of a four straight board. So is he really that big donkey to call you down with a jack here?

krosch 10-28-2007 05:05 AM

Re: Value bet this river or check behind?
 
If he's as loose as you say then it's an easy bet imo. However, even a donk has to be somewhat worried about this board if he has less than top pair. I would still bet most of the time though.

how_can_losing? 10-28-2007 06:10 PM

Re: Value bet this river or check behind?
 
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I shove here, but remember that even the biggest donks are afraid of a four straight board.

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Am I the only one who thinks that betting here is a bad idea?

RevoltBG 10-28-2007 08:34 PM

Re: Value bet this river or check behind?
 
I dont think he is calling a bet larger than say 3/5 of the pot with a single pair so I would bet/fold that amount if have an appropriate (agressive) image - otherwise I would check behind.

muxplust 10-28-2007 10:22 PM

Re: Value bet this river or check behind? NLCASH
 
[ QUOTE ]
Villian is a pretty big donkey. Floats everything, never folds preflop. Calls down with any pair. He has 110.00 left on the river.


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nice post, bet

jay_shark 10-28-2007 11:49 PM

Re: Value bet this river or check behind? NLCASH
 
Play around with pokerstove and you should probably get your answer .

There are some donkeys who will call you with top pair even with a four to a straight board .

People_Mover 10-29-2007 10:05 AM

RESULTS
 
[ QUOTE ]
Villian is a pretty big donkey. Floats everything, never folds preflop. Calls down with any pair. He has 110.00 left on the river.

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $181.50
Hero (SB): $996.70

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $12</font>, BB calls $8

Flop: ($24) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $18</font>, BB calls $18

Turn: ($60) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $42</font>, BB calls $42

River: ($144) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks

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I put him in for his last $110.00 and instacall with Js5s obv. lol [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]


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