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boardertj 10-25-2007 08:29 PM

Party 50nl: turned trips, facing heat
 
Villian is 16/11/2 over 250 hands

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Party Poker Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($129.87)
MP ($16)
Hero ($51.75)
Button ($69.32)
SB ($49.50)
BB ($51.47)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($4.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, SB calls $3.

Turn: ($10.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $22.5</font>, hero ?

Push or fold?

NL Newbie 10-25-2007 08:41 PM

Re: Party 50nl: turned trips, facing heat
 
Who actually thinks villan would slowplay a set on this board?


I think he's got AQ alot here, then sometimes a set, and like QJs/QTs.

Since its CO vs SB i may go broke here.Tough one, im gonna go away and think about this.

AFCBeer 10-25-2007 08:48 PM

Re: Party 50nl: turned trips, facing heat
 
This is really tough. I have a stat on my HUD for "calls preflop raise." This would be useful because if it is low then I'm not sure he calls PF with QJs/QTs OOP.

boardertj 10-26-2007 06:25 AM

Re: Party 50nl: turned trips, facing heat
 
Any other thoughts?

kroeliewoelie 10-26-2007 06:54 AM

Re: Party 50nl: turned trips, facing heat
 
You have made it quite clear that you have the Q and villain is decent. At worst he has QJ here.

Against a range AQ,KQ,QJ,22,88 you have 40% equity. Leaving out QJ makes that 28%. So I guess against this player this is a fold.

Shattered 10-26-2007 07:05 AM

Re: Party 50nl: turned trips, facing heat
 
I can't see a reasonable hand that you beat, really. Basic hand reading says you have to fold: You've just bet three streets representing exactly what your hand is and a none-too-aggressive player came over the top. Besides, this isn't a bad board to slow play a set into an aggro player and once the board paired he could afford to check again.

cashstrapped 10-26-2007 07:41 AM

Re: Party 50nl: turned trips, facing heat
 
This is tricky, sat here i think its a fold, but at the table im not sure if id be able to let this go

Lostit 10-26-2007 08:28 AM

Re: Party 50nl: turned trips, facing heat
 
I gotta fold here. Against a donk I push, but against this villain, I think its 22 or 88 at least 2/3's of the time. He called your raise OOP preflop, which many times can be a small to middle pocket pair. I think AQ might even 3-bet preflop in that spot, so thats why I discount that a bit.

If he did hit his set, a check/call, check/raise line is usually a monster, and a commonly used line.

I gotta fold.


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