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Learning 10-25-2007 08:23 AM

200NL 3bet + Metagame + Bluff(?)
 
Villain is BamYeah on FT. He's a very agro regular who seems pretty good, although he can get out of line at times. We have some very aggressive history playing with one other. He sees me as a Nit/TAG with a handful of tricks.

SB is the big fish in the game. He's not positionally aware and only calls 3bets with great hands.

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP ($212.95)
CO ($497.80)
Hero ($237)
SB ($51.10)
BB ($220)
UTG ($170.20)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, SB calls $6, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $30</font>, Hero calls $23, SB folds.

Flop: ($67) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $45</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $207 (All-In)</font>


Preflop: Villain's BB 3bet/squeeze range is massive, as he knows I'm opening the button quite lightly. I considered 4betting here, but the above-average sized 3bet (due to SB calling), along with the possibility of him tagging along, influenced me to call. Folding is a mistake against villain's enormous range.

Flop: I know that villain fires 100% on of boards with any holdings he would 3bet/squeeze with. I'm know that I'm ahead of the majority of his range at this point and that calling would land me in a handful of really difficult situations. I think he's very capable of shoving any turn on a complete bluff if I call because he narrows my range to marginal holdings (88+ no heart) and any A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Given that, I typically only call a turn shove with a really strong hand. If he was planning on doing this I think it would have been a great play.

So explaining what I thought he'd do on the turn if I call leads me to why I shoved the flop. It shuts down the majority of his range (which is air), and gives TT-AA (no hearts) a very tough call. If he calls with something like AK with a heart I'm flipping and am still +EV given the money already invested.

Agree/Disagree?

Fonkey123 10-25-2007 08:27 AM

Re: 200NL 3bet + Metagame + Bluff(?)
 
Didn't read thread, but this isn't a bluff.

Slider 10-25-2007 08:30 AM

Re: 200NL 3bet + Metagame + Bluff(?)
 
I like it more considering you said he has the tendency to get out of line and thinks you have lots of "tricks."

The more aggro you are towards eachother, the better I like shoving.

Nielsio 10-25-2007 08:30 AM

Re: 200NL 3bet + Metagame + Bluff(?)
 
What's your sn?

bozzer 10-25-2007 08:34 AM

Re: 200NL 3bet + Metagame + Bluff(?)
 
looks good.

futuredoc85 10-25-2007 08:35 AM

Re: 200NL 3bet + Metagame + Bluff(?)
 
[ QUOTE ]
I like it more considering you said he has the tendency to get out of line and thinks you have lots of "tricks."

The more aggro you are towards eachother, the better I like shoving.

[/ QUOTE ]

yep and LOL at bluffing here

ValarMorghulis 10-25-2007 08:38 AM

Re: 200NL 3bet + Metagame + Bluff(?)
 
Your play is standard. But he never folds QQ+.

Learning 10-25-2007 09:18 AM

Re: 200NL 3bet + Metagame + Bluff(?)
 
Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

MP ($212.95)
CO ($497.80)
Hero ($237)
SB ($51.10)
BB ($220)
UTG ($170.20)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, SB calls $6, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $30</font>, Hero calls $23, SB folds.

Flop: ($67) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $45</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $207 (All-In)</font>, BB calls $145 (All-In).

Turn: ($464) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: ($464) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $464

BB has 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, sevens and fours).
Hero has J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, jacks and threes).
Outcome: Hero wins $464.


I knew he was doing this light, but 74s was pretty awesome.

Fonkey123 10-25-2007 09:26 AM

Re: 200NL 3bet + Metagame + Bluff(?)
 
lololololo

therealpk 10-26-2007 12:07 AM

Re: 200NL 3bet + Metagame + Bluff(?)
 
nice work, Learning... not a bad turn card either.


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