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Seven_of_Cups 10-25-2007 12:06 AM

What am I doing wrong?
 
I am making a real effort to play solid Stud but I keep running into brick walls. I have two hands to share below:

7 Card Stud High ($0.50/$1.00), Ante $0.05, Bring-In $0.25 (converter)

Seat 1: $51.90
Seat 3: $31.75
Seat 4: $21.50
Seat 5: $8.70
Seat 6: $32.45
Seat 7: $26.05
Hero: $52.55

3rd Street - (0.70 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 4: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___raises
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls

4th Street - (4.70 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets

5th Street - (5.35 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 7: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets

6th Street - (8.35 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 7: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets

River - (11.35 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___raises
Seat 7: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___folds
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets___calls

Total pot: (15.35 BB)


7 Card Stud High ($0.50/$1.00), Ante $0.05, Bring-In $0.25 (converter)

Seat 1: $21.20
Seat 2: $12.25
Seat 3: $34.90
Seat 4: $25
Seat 5: $11.50
Seat 6: $30.95
Seat 7: $21.70
Hero: $47.85

3rd Street - (0.80 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 2: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls
Seat 3: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 4: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 5: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises

4th Street - (3.80 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 3: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets

5th Street - (2.90 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets

6th Street - (4.90 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets

River - (6.90 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___checks___raises
Hero: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets___calls

Total pot: (10.90 BB)




Am I not pushing hard enough? Should I be getting rid of these?

chucky 10-25-2007 12:59 AM

Re: What am I doing wrong?
 
Hand 1, Check raise 4th. Either that or raise 3rd. I want to get my dead aces hu. Check call river. Hand 2 was fine. i check sometimes on river. If anything, I suspect seat 3 may have made his fh on 6th.

Andy B 10-25-2007 01:05 AM

Re: What am I doing wrong?
 
First hand, I'd raise on third. Hopefully, you get it heads-up, and ideally, the other guy won't also have Aces. With a deadish hand, you really don't want a whole lot of company. After that, yeah, hammer the whole way. The one guy is showing four to a straight, but there are two Fives out, so I wouldn't sweat it too much. It looks like you're beaten when the other guy raises. I don't like paying him off, but I figure he's earned it.

I play the second hand the same. Same observation for this river.

Just because you lose a hand doesn't mean you did anything wrong. Just because you win a hand doesn't mean you did anything right, for that matter.

cgrohman 10-25-2007 09:54 AM

Re: What am I doing wrong?
 
Hand 1: Id raise 3rd. I'd double-bet 4th. Id check the river against 2 opponents because your hand is face up by that point.

Hand 2: This is fine. Sometimes I can find a river fold against certain opponents.

SGspecial 10-25-2007 10:03 AM

Re: What am I doing wrong?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hand 1: Id raise 3rd. I'd double-bet 4th. Id check the river against 2 opponents because your hand is face up by that point.

Hand 2: This is fine. Sometimes I can find a river fold against certain opponents.

[/ QUOTE ]
Hand 1: He did double bet 4th, and I can't imagine c/ring here b/c I can't imagine any one of those board betting into me. Oh, and raise 3rd ftw. Why do you want to play this hand multiway?


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