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runhot 10-24-2007 02:39 PM

20k: 99 approaching first bubble
 
just arrived at table.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t800 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO (t9630)
Button (t11067)
SB (t14525)
BB (t9920)
UTG (t9250)
UTG+1 (t27267)
Hero (t13130)
MP2 (t14380)
MP3 (t13193)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???</font>

wizard 10-24-2007 03:11 PM

Re: 20k: 99 approaching first bubble
 
I like a pot sized raise to about 2000. You will not be pot committed but will be able to get a good read on the table for future decisions. The fact that you are nearing the bubble supports aggressive action. It is interesting that there are no tall or short stacks at the table but everyone, in general has a M of about 10. Is the average stact 13K?

homanga 10-24-2007 03:12 PM

Re: 20k: 99 approaching first bubble
 
I think 2k pre-flop is probably about right. Unfortunately with no reads it will be dependent on action behind you.

runhot 10-24-2007 05:49 PM

Re: 20k: 99 approaching first bubble
 
if i make it 2k and get a caller, im in a pretty bad spot stack size-wise. a cbet leaves me crippled if i cant continue. which means i'll have to cintinue.... i dunno.

how is an open shove here?

gobucks27 10-24-2007 05:55 PM

Re: 20k: 99 approaching first bubble
 
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if i make it 2k and get a caller, im in a pretty bad spot stack size-wise. a cbet leaves me crippled if i cant continue. which means i'll have to cintinue.... i dunno.

how is an open shove here?

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I definitely don't think you open shove here...that just looks weak and you will find a caller more than you want here IMO..I like a raise to 2k..and depending on the texture of the flop you just have to cbet to give yourself a chance to win the pot...however if the flop comes all overs w/ strt and flush draws out there I may give up..

Kinslayer44 10-24-2007 06:04 PM

Re: 20k: 99 approaching first bubble
 
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if i make it 2k and get a caller, im in a pretty bad spot stack size-wise. a cbet leaves me crippled if i cant continue. which means i'll have to cintinue.... i dunno.

how is an open shove here?

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I definitely don't think you open shove here...that just looks weak and you will find a caller more than you want here IMO..I like a raise to 2k..and depending on the texture of the flop you just have to cbet to give yourself a chance to win the pot...however if the flop comes all overs w/ strt and flush draws out there I may give up..

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I disagree, I think open shoving is fine. Blinds with antes should come to 1875 leaving you with an M of 7. That's not too big to shove IMO, and there aren't going to be many flops you are going to like alot of you just standard raise.

jus_nutz 10-24-2007 06:11 PM

Re: 20k: 99 approaching first bubble
 
2k bet is just not right i think

quick math:
you start with 13k
bb: 800, sb: 400, ante: 75
pot is roughly 1.9k
you bet 2k so pot is 3.9k somone bets 13k (or moves in) giving you 1,6:1 odds on calling your remaining 11k.. how can u lay it down? so i move in or fold, rather moving in ...

wizard 10-24-2007 11:43 PM

Re: 20k: 99 approaching first bubble
 
where do you get $75 ante? I don't see that in the post?

ChipSpeak 10-25-2007 12:10 AM

Re: 20k: 99 approaching first bubble
 
Antes in play, gives us relative ~ 10BB stack.. jam it.

gimmetheloot 10-25-2007 12:11 AM

Re: 20k: 99 approaching first bubble
 
I love to LRR here. Love it.


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