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thrasher789 10-24-2007 01:29 PM

Question about Small Stakes Hold\'em (sklanksky, miller, malmuth)
 
In the preflop section they have some starting hand guides, most of them look pretty standard and this is going to be the donkest question ever but my question is this: in the charts they give a list of hands to play or raise from each position, when they say to play they mean to limp with this hand but they do not go into further detail about if you are to call raises wiht it from those in later position. Is it safe to say they assume you will calll at least one raise but probably fold for 2 if your hand was not worth raising PF?

Absolution 10-24-2007 02:09 PM

Re: Question about Small Stakes Hold\'em (sklanksky, miller, malmuth)
 
This question is too general.

Gurravasa 10-24-2007 02:11 PM

Re: Question about Small Stakes Hold\'em (sklanksky, miller, malmuth)
 
When SSSH says play it means call. They also have suggestions how to play against a raise. I don't see why you think they don't go into detail about this? Isn't there a "against a raise" paragraph for each position in the preflopchart in your edition of SSSH?

Anyway if you play shorthanded you shouldn't use the chart in SSSH. Use stox or similar chart instead.

frenchpignouf 10-24-2007 02:57 PM

Re: Question about Small Stakes Hold\'em (sklanksky, miller, malmuth)
 
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Anyway if you play shorthanded you shouldn't use the chart in SSSH. Use stox or similar chart instead and adapt this chart with the game, your stats on PT and your insight. .

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thrasher789 10-24-2007 03:40 PM

Re: Question about Small Stakes Hold\'em (sklanksky, miller, malmuth)
 
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When SSSH says play it means call. They also have suggestions how to play against a raise. I don't see why you think they don't go into detail about this? Isn't there a "against a raise" paragraph for each position in the preflopchart in your edition of SSSH?

Anyway if you play shorthanded you shouldn't use the chart in SSSH. Use stox or similar chart instead.

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yes they had a section for agains't a raise, reraise, ect. but they want you to limp from EP with some hands and my question is do they suggest you call anything when it gets back to you or fold depending on the action.

also where can I find the charts you are talking about?

Gurravasa 10-24-2007 04:19 PM

Re: Question about Small Stakes Hold\'em (sklanksky, miller, malmuth)
 
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When SSSH says play it means call. They also have suggestions how to play against a raise. I don't see why you think they don't go into detail about this? Isn't there a "against a raise" paragraph for each position in the preflopchart in your edition of SSSH?

Anyway if you play shorthanded you shouldn't use the chart in SSSH. Use stox or similar chart instead.

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yes they had a section for agains't a raise, reraise, ect. but they want you to limp from EP with some hands and my question is do they suggest you call anything when it gets back to you or fold depending on the action.

also where can I find the charts you are talking about?

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aha you mean when you limped and then it's a raise and a reraise? Well you shouldn't openlimp in shorthanded so that isn't a problem. If you play FR and limp from EP all hand is worth playing for 1 more bet and many for 2 bets since there is now a lot of bets in the pot.

There is a preflopchart in Stoxtraders book winning in tough hold'em games you should check out.

Gurravasa 10-24-2007 04:21 PM

Re: Question about Small Stakes Hold\'em (sklanksky, miller, malmuth)
 
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Anyway if you play shorthanded you shouldn't use the chart in SSSH. Use stox or similar chart instead and adapt this chart with the game, your stats on PT and your insight. .

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I don't think this is good advice to a novice at sh-limit. I don't think he should adapt the chart very much in the beginning.

Robin Foolz 10-24-2007 05:11 PM

Re: Question about Small Stakes Hold\'em (sklanksky, miller, malmuth)
 
that book was written for and the stuff in it applies mostly to full ring (9-11 players) live poker games.

thrasher789 10-24-2007 09:02 PM

Re: Question about Small Stakes Hold\'em (sklanksky, miller, malmuth)
 
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Anyway if you play shorthanded you shouldn't use the chart in SSSH. Use stox or similar chart instead and adapt this chart with the game, your stats on PT and your insight. .

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I don't think this is good advice to a novice at sh-limit. I don't think he should adapt the chart very much in the beginning.

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To be honest I've been playing for awhile and I'm not a beginer by any means, I just had a question about what they really meant when they said "play" becuase at first time I had a hard time believing they wanted me to open limp as you said, but then again it is based for full ring against fishy players so that is why I wanted to ask here to clarify and gain any other insight.

Gurravasa 10-25-2007 04:34 AM

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Anyway if you play shorthanded you shouldn't use the chart in SSSH. Use stox or similar chart instead and adapt this chart with the game, your stats on PT and your insight. .

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I don't think this is good advice to a novice at sh-limit. I don't think he should adapt the chart very much in the beginning.

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To be honest I've been playing for awhile and I'm not a beginer by any means, I just had a question about what they really meant when they said "play" becuase at first time I had a hard time believing they wanted me to open limp as you said, but then again it is based for full ring against fishy players so that is why I wanted to ask here to clarify and gain any other insight.

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Well until you've read stoxtraders book I think you should regard yourself a beginner in SH-limit...


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