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pureklas 10-24-2007 09:38 AM

2/4 QQ low board: villain donk pots turn
 
Villain is 12/9/3.5 for 100 hands, no notes.

What kind of hands does villain do this with? Hands up for calling a turn bet folding to a river shove? Hands up for just folding? Hands up for getting it in?


No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2./$4.
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $177.30
Hero: $588.80
CO: $281.50
Button: $326.10
SB: $345.80
BB: $99.10

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $14</font>, 2 folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($32, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $27</font>, SB calls.

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($86, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $86</font>, Hero ??

Thanks

Suwalski 10-24-2007 10:28 AM

Re: 2/4 QQ low board: villain donk pots turn
 
I usually call this and see what happens on river, probably c/f, though it depends on bet size

Albert Moulton 10-24-2007 02:10 PM

Re: 2/4 QQ low board: villain donk pots turn
 
Call the $86.

After calling, fold or call on the river (but don't bet) depending on what it is and how much he bets. For example, a 5 or T or heart plus a big bet from villain is probably a river fold. Most other cards, and small bets from villain, are probably a call.

NLMan 10-24-2007 03:31 PM

Re: 2/4 QQ low board: villain donk pots turn
 
This looks like 89... or a bluff trying to rep 89... maybe even a slowplayed straight scared of being outdrawn. In either case you will most likely be facing an even tougher decision on the river. I like a fold here without a read.

AAismyfriend 10-24-2007 05:58 PM

Re: 2/4 QQ low board: villain donk pots turn
 
He doesnt have 89, he's 12/9. I think you should fold the turn here since calling here and folding to a river bet seems like burning money. If you have a read that he does this with TT/JJ type hands but will then check the river, than calling the turn bet seems ok.

rand 10-24-2007 06:01 PM

Re: 2/4 QQ low board: villain donk pots turn
 
i fold turn

i think its safe to assume that bets like this are ahead of 1pair hands until you see otherwise

xwowsersx 10-24-2007 06:06 PM

Re: 2/4 QQ low board: villain donk pots turn
 
i think, given that he's 12/9 and called here from SB, that he has a set and has, for whatever reason (maybe the board is getting too drawy and he wants to protect his hand) he has decided to lead out. i think overall, calling just hoping for a cheap showdown on river is -EV, given his aggression factor.

13_Xerxes 10-24-2007 08:59 PM

Re: 2/4 QQ low board: villain donk pots turn
 
99 ? A set scaried by the board ?

Fold for me... Or call/call, but bad, imo.

mythrilfox 10-24-2007 09:52 PM

Re: 2/4 QQ low board: villain donk pots turn
 
easy fold


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