Standard hand???
 

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Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $10
Mattnxtc: $29.45
CO: $9.50
Button: $13.15
SB: $6.10
BB: $69.90

Pre-flop: (6 players) Mattnxtc is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG (poster) checks, <font color="#cc0000">Mattnxtc raises</font>, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8SB, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, BB calls, UTG folds, Mattnxtc calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5.5BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, BB calls, Mattnxtc folds.

Re: Standard hand???
 

Seems pretty standard although sometimes I fold this flop depending on reads.

Re: Standard hand???
 

Id fold the flop. I give you 3 outs at most.

Re: Standard hand???
 

My only thought on the flop right or wrong is I probably have 3 outs to the ace with another partial out to the back door straight.

Re: Standard hand???
 

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My only thought on the flop right or wrong is I probably have 3 outs to the ace with another partial out to the back door straight.

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I dont consider your aces full outs.

Re: Standard hand???
 

I fold the flop as well. If the guy in the middle didnt call I'd call.

I'd say your A outs are worth around 2 outs and your J + weak bdsd is worth about 1 out

EDIT: Wait you are in position. This is closer than I first thought. I dont mind calling but it prolly affects your variance more than your WR

Re: Standard hand???
 

I fold this flop everytime when BB calls. I think there're plenty of reverse implied odds when a J hits.

Re: Standard hand???
 

I'd just dump it on the flop. You have the SB betting into you (the preflop raiser) and two others. You don't know if a raise will come from behind you or not. You are likely drawing to three outs. There's not much point in continuing with the hand.

Re: Standard hand???
 

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Id fold the flop. I give you 3 outs at most.

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