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dachord 10-22-2007 09:49 PM

98 Suited vs. all-ins
 
Recent trip to Tunica left me thinking a lot about this hand. After it was over, there was a lot of discussion with both pros & cons about everyone's play. Ring game 1-3 NLHE. My stack is about twice the size of anyone else at the table and I'm playing against 6 others; 2 are very passive fishys. The other 4 are insanely LAG. I'm on the BB with 98s. UTG calls, two folds, MP+1 calls, CO raises 10BB (which he does frequently w/any 2 cards), Button calls. I decide to call. UTG now reraises all-in. He's one of the LAG players and his chip stack is second only to mine. Much to my surprise, everyone else calls! It's something like $180 for me to call. UTG had everyone else covered (except me), so now the pot is approx $450. I know my hand is weak, but I called for 2 reasons. First was the obvious pot odds. Second was the range of hands that I put them on. I felt that all of these insanely LAG players had nothing more than high cards - I really felt that all other players were in effect cancelling each other out. So, after thinking for a minute, I decide to gamble and make the call.

The hands were as follows: 99, KQ, KQ, AK. Flop: 9,K,Q rainbow. Turn: 2. River: 7.

UTG took the pot with a set of 9s.

I sat there for a couple of hours cursing myself, but I'm still not sure that this was a horrible play. Maybe a bit on the dumba.ss side, but not entirely idiotic.

hotbacon 10-22-2007 09:52 PM

Re: 98 Suited vs. all-ins
 
I'm fairly sure that your call sucks but I would have to get out pokerstove to be sure.

JFsports 10-22-2007 09:53 PM

Re: 98 Suited vs. all-ins
 
lol at this hand.

OP, just use pokerstove, give everyone ranges, and you can easily determine whether your call was good or not. Off the top of my head I have no idea what your hot-and-cold equity is here in a multiway pot

BanZaY 10-22-2007 11:25 PM

Re: 98 Suited vs. all-ins
 
1,289,612,687 games 7.734 secs 166,745,886 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 15.723% 14.58% 01.16% 188067130 14960958.40 { 88+, ATs+, KJs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1: 17.548% 16.12% 01.45% 207865375 18733383.07 { 88+, ATs+, KJs+, AQo }
Hand 2: 22.275% 20.56% 01.75% 265123852 22520503.07 { 88+, ATs+, KJs+, AQo }
Hand 3: 24.720% 22.86% 01.89% 294814012 24397953.57 { 88+, ATs+, KJs+, AQo }
Hand 4: 19.734% 19.53% 00.23% 251812677 3018179.90 { 9h8h }

You need 5 to 1 pot odds. Bad Call I guess...

Some9 10-23-2007 02:10 AM

Re: 98 Suited vs. all-ins
 

change 2 ppl to ATC pls.

ok call.


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