Explain?
 

Full Tilt Poker Game #3935641081: Table Eginton (6 max) - $200/$400 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 19:07:05 ET - 2007/10/22
Seat 2: xSt0n3rx ($11,000), is sitting out
Seat 3: BlueWolff ($14,800)
Seat 4: Hiirim ($71,895)
Seat 5: DaFool ($81,196)
Seat 6: DanDock21 ($23,598)
DaFool posts the small blind of $200
DanDock21 posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
BlueWolff folds
Hiirim raises to $1,400
DaFool calls $1,200
DanDock21 calls $1,000
*** FLOP *** [Tc 2s 8s]
DaFool bets $4,200
DanDock21 folds
Hiirim calls $4,200
*** TURN *** [Tc 2s 8s] [3h]
DaFool checks
Hiirim bets $12,600
DaFool raises to $50,400
Hiirim raises to $66,295, and is all in
DaFool calls $15,895
Hiirim shows [Kd Td 9h Jd]
DaFool shows [Ts 8d Ad Qc]
*** RIVER *** [Tc 2s 8s 3h] [4s]
xSt0n3rx has been disconnected
Hiirim shows a pair of Tens
DaFool shows two pair, Tens and Eights
DaFool wins the pot ($145,188) with two pair, Tens and Eights
Pokerface McGee sits down
Hiirim is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $145,190 | Rake $2
Board: [Tc 2s 8s 3h 4s]
Seat 2: xSt0n3rx is sitting out
Seat 3: BlueWolff didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Hiirim (button) showed [Kd Td 9h Jd] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 5: DaFool (small blind) showed [Ts 8d Ad Qc] and won ($145,188) with two pair, Tens and Eights
Seat 6: DanDock21 (big blind) folded on the Flop

I'm new to omaha and this makes no sense at all to me. explain please.

Re: Explain?
 

Easy to explain.
Lotsa gamboool at FTP HS-PLO.

If you are interested in learning the game by watching online PLO I suggest watching small - mid stakes.

If not.. you gonna have lot of these "huh???" moments.

Re: Explain?
 

pretty standard, especially if you have been active

Game #5995111344: Omaha PL ($1/$2) - 2007/10/22 - 17:03:15 (UK)
Table "Clickhere" Seat 6 is the button.
Seat 1: ElRazor ($561.85 in chips)
Seat 2: Paras2611 ($101 in chips)
Seat 3: Sniper ($325.51 in chips)
Seat 4: Dlukyboat ($279.60 in chips)
Seat 5: Savant ($206.35 in chips)
Seat 6: efterklok ($264.50 in chips)
ElRazor: posts small blind $1
Paras2611: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to ElRazor [Ts Jc Kh As]
Sniper: folds
Dlukyboat: folds
Savant: folds
efterklok: folds
ElRazor: raises to $6
Paras2611: calls $4
----- FLOP ----- [4c Ks Js]
ElRazor: bets $12
Paras2611: calls $12
----- TURN ----- [4c Ks Js][6h]
ElRazor: checks
Paras2611: bets $28
ElRazor: raises to $120
Paras2611: is all-in $55
Returned uncalled bets $37 to ElRazor
----- RIVER ----- [4c Ks Js 6h][3d]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
ElRazor: shows [Ts Jc Kh As] (Two Pairs, Kings and Jacks, Six high)
Paras2611: shows [Th Qd 7s Td] (A Pair of Tens, King high)
ElRazor collected $199 from Main pot

Re: Explain?
 

ElRazor can you explain your thoughts on the turn action please?

Re: Explain?
 

OP, you need to use 3(three cards exactly) from the board, and 2 (two cards exactly) from your hand. These 5(five cards total) make up what we know and love as a poker hand.

As you now know, Hiirim did not have a straight.

Re: Explain?
 

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ElRazor can you explain your thoughts on the turn action please?

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My guess is that he had a read on Paras that he would attack sudden weakness. So ElRazor went for the ole' check raise with a decent hand with a great redraw. NH

If ElRazor always cont bet the flop and then checked unimproved on the turn, it would be easy to exploit this. It is important to keep your opponents guessing. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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elrazor or any decent player knows that villan cant call the flop with a hand that beats elrazors hand. the turn cant possibly be a card that all of a sudden beats elrazors hand. there was probably history between elrazor and villan and elrazor knew that villan would bite on the turn. its either that or villan is terrible.

regardless, elrazor has a hand that still has plenty of outs to the nuts.

personally, i think a good player checks behind on turn.......villan played it terrible.

Re: Explain?
 

Maybe if the rumors are true and Hiirim is Ziigmund then there can be one logical explanation... TILT! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] Ziigmund is know for tilting quite heavily [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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ElRazor can you explain your thoughts on the turn action please?

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the table was very taggy, so much so that i considered moving before i won a couple of decent hands to give me a big stack. after that i opened my game up slightly and was playing the typical 'agro big stack game' which wasnt so much to actually win pots then and there as to set up a situation exactly like this.

as i c-bet pretty much 100% against a single opponent, BB could easily have pegged me on air here and figured his tens were good and he had a redraw if they are not. this is kind of a standard play for me - it wins me alot of big pots, it gets all the money in when im ahead, removes any tricky river decisions and observant opponents will never know where they are at on the turn

Re: Explain?
 

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ElRazor can you explain your thoughts on the turn action please?

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Flip-Flop, did this really puzzle you? I'm not patronising you but that is the ONLY play Elrazor can make. Top 2 and nut-redraw...I can't get my money in fast enough. If he's woken up with a set, so be it and you have outs. And like Elrazor said, if you're playing aggro on the flop, you can be assured that your villains probably won't be matching up to you with their best holdings assuming ELrazor is firing at a lot of flops with a wide range.

This happens a lot HU. Oftentimes you get to a point where your opp. is so frustrated with your aggroness that they get it in way too light. Major benefits of playing a non-nitty game at PLO.