tptk two buyins deep in blinds battle (with history)
 

villain's running at about 22/15.5/4. could be an ssnler. seems like a mediocre tag to me. my image at this table is active -- 24/20/3 or so and i've been picking up lots of pots. we played the following hand earlier in the session:

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $197
Hero (SB): $422.65
BB: $639.40
UTG: $200
MP: $203.20
CO: $842.10

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
4 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, BB calls $6

Flop: ($16) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $30</font>, Hero calls $18

Turn: ($76) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $22</font>, Hero calls $22

River: ($120) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $30</font>, Hero calls $30

Results: $180 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero mucked A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Eights) and LOST (-$90 NET)
BB showed T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, Jacks and Tens) and WON $177 (+$87 NET)

after the hand, i said to him, "nh ape." he replied, "=)." that's about it as far as history.

what do you think of my play on the first three streets? do you call the river bet? if not, what's the worst hand with which you would call?

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $200
Hero (SB): $437.05
BB: $731.65
UTG: $217.50
MP: $210
CO: $239.35

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
4 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $29</font>, Hero calls $21

Flop: ($58) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $45</font>, Hero calls $45

Turn: ($148) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $111</font>, Hero calls $111

River: ($370) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $370</font> (i have $252.05 left)

Re: tptk two buyins deep in blinds battle (with history)
 

i'm pushing that turn with your read, i'm not too happy about it though

Re: tptk two buyins deep in blinds battle (with history)
 

I'd 4 bet small pre, probably. I don't think this is awful though.

As played I think you have to call river. I would definitely either lead or c/r the turn though. The board is kinda drawy once the 6s comes out. Flop play is fine.

Re: tptk two buyins deep in blinds battle (with history)
 

I hate this spot pre alot. 4-betting can get you in alot of trouble I think, so I think just calling the 3-bet is fine. Flop and turn are played well.

On the river I'd call. I expect him to bet less with a hand that beats AK.

Re: tptk two buyins deep in blinds battle (with history)
 

Raise | Fold pre.

Re: tptk two buyins deep in blinds battle (with history)
 

On the one hand I want to call the river as we have shown a relatively weak line throughout by c/c'ing.
But then villain has fired all 3 barrels at us. Is villain giving up on the turn with a QQ type hand? (probably?) I think we are beat here, but im struggling to put villain on a hand, maybe a set/2pair.
Either way, I think we have to fold the river there. Urgh.

Re: tptk two buyins deep in blinds battle (with history)
 

a couple of thoughts:

1. if i cr the turn, what's he supposed to continue with? KQ? my image is active but not insane.

2. on the river, i thought my hand was somewhat defined. whether the villain knows what i have is up for debate, obviously (i provided my full read). i don't see him value betting worse on the river. i think he either has me beat or he thinks he can move me off my hand. who knows whether he thinks i'll pitch AK here, though.

Re: tptk two buyins deep in blinds battle (with history)
 

I think on the river its kind of a levelling game. In hand 1 he choose a small betsize with a hand that was very, very likely to be best (he was IP there too, so it was no blocker).

I think your hand is somewhat defined as AA (reasonable play this deep) or AK and maybe he puts you on KQ. I think he is trying to move you off it.

Re: tptk two buyins deep in blinds battle (with history)
 

i agree with most of that. but i'd generally 4bet AA pre with these stacks. you wouldn't? i think my hand looks like a good king.

i'm tricky/weird enough to show up with a monster here, too, but he has no way of knowing this.

Re: tptk two buyins deep in blinds battle (with history)
 

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Raise | Fold pre.

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We are 200bb deep, calling is ok