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JammyDodga 10-22-2007 07:04 AM

Low-stakes rebuys: Playing the middle period well.
 
Hi, I've been playing a few of the lo stakes re-buy tournaments on stars recently, from the 3r up to the 10r.

I've gotton pretty good at getting a stack in the first hour, and useually finish the first hour on around 20k.

However, I never seem to be able to do anything for the next 2 hours or so, and often wind up with the same stack when the blind are to 500/1000.

1. How do people play these couple of hours? Are they tight and just value betting, or attempting to mix it up in position a bit with stacks so deep.

2. Has anyone noticed any trends in most other players play, are there many common exploitable mistakes?

Soulman 10-22-2007 07:42 AM

Re: Low-stakes rebuys: Playing the middle period well.
 
1. Definitely don't be tight. Stacks are usually very deep in hour 2-3, and guess what? Lots of donkamenters suuuuuuuuuck at deep stack play. So play speculative hands, just like you would early in an MTT.

2. Common exploitable mistakes: uh well, whatever bad players do deep: overvalue pairs, call OOP in a bloated pot, call with hands that have reverse implied odds etc.

JammyDodga 10-22-2007 08:08 AM

Re: Low-stakes rebuys: Playing the middle period well.
 
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1. Definitely don't be tight. Stacks are usually very deep in hour 2-3, and guess what? Lots of donkamenters suuuuuuuuuck at deep stack play. So play speculative hands, just like you would early in an MTT.

2. Common exploitable mistakes: uh well, whatever bad players do deep: overvalue pairs, call OOP in a bloated pot, call with hands that have reverse implied odds etc.

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Sucking at deepstack. Thats me I think. I've been playing a bit of cash recently to try and imporve my deepstack game though.

I think you are right about the speculative hands. I think I'm sub-conciously pretecting my big stack, instead of using it.

I'm normally alright with a big stack, but thats when you can use it the bully people, which is kind of hard early in a rebuy where people seem willing to felt pretty light.

Rocco 10-22-2007 08:10 AM

Re: Low-stakes rebuys: Playing the middle period well.
 
3. People suck at re-evaluating reads after re-buy period. Assuming you take many chances during the first hour, they just don't realize you have tightened up. Even 2½ hours into the game, they are more than willing to put a 100BB stack on the line with TPTK.

tinty 10-22-2007 09:39 AM

Re: Low-stakes rebuys: Playing the middle period well.
 
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3. People suck at re-evaluating reads after re-buy period. Assuming you take many chances during the first hour, they just don't realize you have tightened up. Even 2½ hours into the game, they are more than willing to put a 100BB stack on the line with TPTK.

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This is a very good point. Just out of curiosity do you reset you PT hud(if you use one) or anything here? I haven't tried it, I just tend to go on memory and hope the stats even out, but obv this is not as accurate as it could be.

Rocco 10-22-2007 09:50 AM

Re: Low-stakes rebuys: Playing the middle period well.
 
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3. People suck at re-evaluating reads after re-buy period. Assuming you take many chances during the first hour, they just don't realize you have tightened up. Even 2½ hours into the game, they are more than willing to put a 100BB stack on the line with TPTK.

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This is a very good point. Just out of curiosity do you reset you PT hud(if you use one) or anything here? I haven't tried it, I just tend to go on memory and hope the stats even out, but obv this is not as accurate as it could be.

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No, I don't use PT stats while playing tournaments. I think it hampers my development in reading players so I try to make mental notes instead. When playing many tournaments simultaneously, I can really only get accurate reads on the most extreme players. In ring games, I use PT though...

BrandiFan 10-22-2007 10:14 AM

Re: Low-stakes rebuys: Playing the middle period well.
 
Eric lindgren wrote a pretty good article on building a stack/playing lots of pots. He recommends dropping a level or 2 in your cash play and play as many pots as you can. This is good for getting experience in marginal situations and the microdonks will play pretty closely to the 3-10r players.

fwiw, I played a couple sessions of .5/1 with a vpip of around 65 and it was pretty fun too. I am normally not THAT aggressive in tournaments, but every once in a while I'll get a table that will let me get away with opening every other pot.

Edit: Idon't use a HUD either

JammyDodga 10-22-2007 12:29 PM

Re: Low-stakes rebuys: Playing the middle period well.
 
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Eric lindgren wrote a pretty good article on building a stack/playing lots of pots.

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Link?

Dunkman 10-22-2007 12:47 PM

Re: Low-stakes rebuys: Playing the middle period well.
 
I think the best thing for you to do is go play some nl ring games. Maybe 25nl or something, I'd play 6max, and just get a feel for hand values when deep and the types of hands that people stack off with. I don't know what your bankroll is, nl50 or higher may be better for your needs, but if you really don't know what you're doing the regulars at those levels may fleece you pretty good.

BrandiFan 10-22-2007 01:31 PM

Re: Low-stakes rebuys: Playing the middle period well.
 
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Eric lindgren wrote a pretty good article on building a stack/playing lots of pots.

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Link?

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