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holdem2000 10-22-2007 12:58 AM

200nl, 250BBs deep, river NF on paired board
 
My turn bet should have been bigger, wasn't paying enough attention. River comments? Villain is 35/8 over a small sample size.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $233.50
Hero (BTN): $809.90
SB: $122
BB: $498.35
UTG: $103.70
UTG+1: $77.40
MP1: $299.30
MP2: $200

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
5 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $14</font>, Hero calls $6

Flop: ($29) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $8</font>, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($45) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $16</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $32</font>, Hero calls $16

River: ($109) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $150</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $395</font>, Hero folds

Results: $409 Pot ($3 Rake)
BB mucked and WON $406 (+$202 NET)

coordi 10-22-2007 01:04 AM

Re: 200nl, 250BBs deep, river NF on paired board
 
I probly would have flat called the river. Playing that deep you have to be prepared for a shove. As played fold, although I really really want to look this up.

Das Budrick 10-22-2007 01:08 AM

Re: 200nl, 250BBs deep, river NF on paired board
 
grunch

I don't like the raise/fold on river. If we are raising we should be prepared to call a smaller 3bet and probably fold to a shove, as played I would just call. I could easily be wrong though.

futuredoc85 10-22-2007 02:16 AM

Re: 200nl, 250BBs deep, river NF on paired board
 
looks fine to me other than the turn bet

there's def. value in the raise but he's not 3-betting a T hi flush or dry queen here IMO

Bluegrassplayer 10-22-2007 02:45 AM

Re: 200nl, 250BBs deep, river NF on paired board
 
Seems to me that he's showing up with kings full a lot of the time here, aces doesn't really play like this, especially since you have the ace of spades, and he might even have quad queens.

He's playing this like such a sucker that it's not even funny. 8 dollars on the flop, min raise on the turn, etc? screams a big hand to me. Because he's playing it like this I definitely just call the river.

BlueBear 10-22-2007 03:11 AM

Re: 200nl, 250BBs deep, river NF on paired board
 
A min 3-bet raise is simply AA, KK, QQ most of the time. Just call the river. Nothing that you beat on the river calls you if you raise.

Hklm8383 10-22-2007 03:21 AM

Re: 200nl, 250BBs deep, river NF on paired board
 
your always beat there, fold.

call river

ASPoker8 10-22-2007 03:43 AM

Re: 200nl, 250BBs deep, river NF on paired board
 
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looks fine to me other than the turn bet

there's def. value in the raise but he's not 3-betting a T hi flush or dry queen here IMO

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holdem2000 10-22-2007 03:57 AM

Re: 200nl, 250BBs deep, river NF on paired board
 
[ QUOTE ]
A min 3-bet raise is simply AA, KK, QQ most of the time. Just call the river. Nothing that you beat on the river calls you if you raise.

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This definitely isn't true when the button is stealing.

Bluegrassplayer 10-22-2007 04:02 AM

Re: 200nl, 250BBs deep, river NF on paired board
 
What about the min raises on the flop and the turn though (counting 8 into 29 as a total suck bet min raise)


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