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Kimpan 10-21-2007 10:34 AM

AKs vs some strange line.
 
Don't know what to make of his flopline, it looks weak or monster. On this board I don't see many monsters so I'm leaning towards a weak hand, AK,AQ,AJ or some middle pp.
He may not be folding his mid pp but at least I have chance to draw out on him if that's what he is holding.
When he raises, what do I put him on? QQ,JJ? I need to be good about 24% to make the call..

PartyPoker $200 NL Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(6 handed)</font> HandRecorder v0.9b

Stacks &amp; Stats
UTG ($215.78)
MP ($176.96) (35/9/2.46/24) (80h)
CO ($380.07)
SB ($198)
BB ($258.15)
Hero ($212)

Preflop: Hero is BU with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#FF0000">MP raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $27</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls $19.

Flop: ($57) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">MP bets $20</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises to $64</font>, <font color="#FF0000">MP raises to $149.96 (all-in)</font>, Hero...

Unknown Soldier 10-21-2007 10:49 AM

Re: AKs vs some strange line.
 
hate hate hate the flop raise. i'd 3b smaller vs this guy too.

monkover 10-21-2007 10:50 AM

Re: AKs vs some strange line.
 
pot=57$+64$+148$=269$
so youre getting like 269-86 --&gt; 3.12 to 1
Iīm not sure wether you have enough equity here vs villainīs range

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

29,700 games 0.005 secs 5,940,000 games/sec

Board: 6h 6d 5c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 24.369% 24.36% 00.01% 7236 1.50 { AhKh }
Hand 1: 75.631% 75.63% 00.01% 22461 1.50 { 99+ }



If this range is kind of accurate this is a very marginal call.
75*86=6450$
25*269=6750$

---&gt;300/100=3$ so you make a net win of 1.5bb here.

This of course is based on the presumption that villainīs range is 99+ which of course i do not know wether or no this is accurate. Adding other, smaller overpairs only improves our equity by 1 or 2% though so this is negligable...
So this imo def is a very marginal situation...

Anybody thinks my range is way off though? This is a 35/5 so his range could be kind of different b/c they obv do all sorts of crap all the time. If there is any kind of 6 in villainīs range which i doubt our equity drops a lot and this becomes and instamuck.

monkover 10-21-2007 10:51 AM

Re: AKs vs some strange line.
 
my math obv is only for wether to call or not! I never raise this flop!

Kimpan 10-21-2007 10:52 AM

Re: AKs vs some strange line.
 
why do we hate the flop raise?
Doesn't it take it down a lot here?

Kimpan 10-21-2007 10:54 AM

Re: AKs vs some strange line.
 
hmm raise is no good cause we are folding out hands we beat..

Unknown Soldier 10-21-2007 10:55 AM

Re: AKs vs some strange line.
 
no that's not the reason. folding JT is good

Kimpan 10-21-2007 10:59 AM

Re: AKs vs some strange line.
 
is it bad because we are getting ourself committed with A high?

Unknown Soldier 10-21-2007 11:00 AM

Re: AKs vs some strange line.
 
yeah that and he mostly has a pair here and isnt folding

Some9 10-21-2007 02:34 PM

Re: AKs vs some strange line.
 

I like it. You do the math yourself once he shvoes..


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