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michaelantoi 10-20-2007 01:37 AM

How to get value here?
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button (t2150)
SB (t1420)
BB (t3150)
UTG (t1510)
UTG+1 (t1530)
MP1 (t1340)
MP2 (t1010)
MP3 (t1350)
Hero (t1390)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t90</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t60.

Flop: (t195) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t120</font>, BB calls t120.

Turn: (t435) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (t435) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t180</font> Hero??

Call/Raise/Shove?

kenny7 10-20-2007 02:23 AM

Re: How to get value here?
 
Ok,so there's no buyin info,no reads,no nothing,so take my advice with more than a grain of salt.

First of all,why aren't you betting the turn? See no reason to check here,unless you are trapping and I see no reason for that either. Another reason for betting the turn;if he calls,the chances of him having a T are pretty big. The way it is now you have no idea.

He could easily be bluffing,I mean,your line looks pretty weak from his standpoint,problem is,he would probably play the same way if he had a T(altho I would expect his riverbet to be bigger)

The way it's played,I only call here. That might be a little weak,but if you raise,I can only see him raising or folding. Dunno that he'll call with any hands we have beat,so no reason to raise here,as you can def not call a rr.

michaelantoi 10-20-2007 06:14 AM

Re: How to get value here?
 
I didn't want to fold any draws and I wasn't sure if anything but A ten was calling my turn bet. Thoughts?

No reads and it's a $33fo.

michaelantoi 10-20-2007 06:21 AM

Re: How to get value here?
 
He could have a set, overpair or a draw. I think an overpair is better so this is why I check the turn.

Way ahead or way behind I figured so no point in betting. Is the turn play really bad?

pped5700 10-20-2007 07:41 AM

Re: How to get value here?
 
Against a competent opponent, check the turn, call river.
nh

ssnyc 10-20-2007 10:45 AM

Re: How to get value here?
 
pretty standard call...your like looks a lot like AK and he is betting into you...I doubt he calls with a worse ace but no real value in raising at this blind level and stage

michaelantoi 10-20-2007 11:15 AM

Re: How to get value here?
 
A call was fine i thought. A raise is no good?

Could be a weak bet with a busted flush draw?
Too early to be trying to accumulate so many chips at such a risk?

ssnyc 10-20-2007 11:19 AM

Re: How to get value here?
 
can't make a raise and fold so shove is okay but you won't get called by a worse hand too often...risk at this stage is not worth the extra chips

hamnegger 10-20-2007 12:04 PM

Re: How to get value here?
 
call


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