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mongidig 10-20-2007 12:05 AM

AA and a dry board.
 
Two EP limp, MP limps, I raise in cutoff with AdAc, Both blinds call as do the limpers. Three of the players in this hand are very LAGY, One is loose passive, and one is Tight passive.

The flop: TdTh6c

I bet, everyone calls.

The turn: TdTh6c2h

It is checked to me....What would you do? Check? Bet-fold? Bet-call?

Garland 10-20-2007 12:35 AM

Re: AA and a dry board.
 
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I bet, everyone calls.

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Everyone? All 5 opponents? This concerns me as a T is certainly a worry. This is a rainbow flop with some hidden gutshots, but I see all sorts of players peel with a backdoor flush draw, of which a heart draw emerges on the turn.

This is an interesting spot:
Bet and you get to find out where you're at right away.

Check, and you give a free card: But that free card may not be horrible (given no one picked up a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] draw). But then if you check, the added benefit is, you get more marginal hands (6x, small pairs, people who pair their river card) to call you as you have underrepresented your hand on the turn, where they are more likely to fold the turn, but will pay off one bet on the river.

This is the flexibility that is given when you have AA and position, you don't have to worry about an overcard killing you. I would probably check the turn and evaluate the river action. If it checks to me, I'm betting. If there's one bet to me, I'm calling. Of course if you river an A, go raise happy [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img].

Garland

Sailboats 10-20-2007 12:35 AM

Re: AA and a dry board.
 
Well first you bet, you are ahead of quite a few hands and you should charge the flush draws some coin. And if you get C/R you should then call or fold depending on the player... This is a MUTB syndrome

StrictlyStrategy 10-20-2007 01:06 AM

Re: AA and a dry board.
 
I love checking here and laughing when it's 3bets back to me.

Free cards? If you're ahead of everyone, then you're dodging at an absolute WORST ten outs(5 people have a pocket pair)

So giving a free card isn't really a super big deal.
I'd check this turn.

goofball 10-20-2007 01:13 AM

Re: AA and a dry board.
 
Check duh. Someone has a ten.

brick 10-20-2007 09:03 PM

Re: AA and a dry board.
 
Not sure I've ever been in this spot because usually there won't be 5 callers on such a dry board. Very interesting spot. It's the tight players that I'm most worried about.

Cut it down to 4 loose players and I'd bet.
But with 2 tight players I'd check this one and see how the action goes on the river.

guizeppe 10-21-2007 06:14 AM

Re: AA and a dry board.
 
I would agree with "brick".
It is really a hard played hand since you have 5 callers and 2 Ts on the table.
I would definitely check to see how it all evolves


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