Can you get away from this?
 

Just sulking a little after this one.... could anyone get away from this bad boy?

eat 1: 2hi4me2cu (£33.05 in chips)
Seat 2: Ccc007 (£42.60 in chips)
Seat 3: Wull316 (£25.59 in chips)
Seat 4: Jerry003 sits out
Seat 5: Dowse07 (£27.93 in chips)
Seat 6: Ballla (£30.50 in chips)
Ballla: posts small blind £0.15
2hi4me2cu: posts big blind £0.25
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to 2hi4me2cu [4d 4c]
Ccc007: calls £0.25
Wull316: folds
Dowse07: raises to £1.25
Ballla: folds
2hi4me2cu: calls £1
Ccc007: folds
----- FLOP ----- [3c 4h Js]
2hi4me2cu: checks
Dowse07: bets £1.50
2hi4me2cu: calls £1.50
----- TURN ----- [3c 4h Js][Qh]
2hi4me2cu: checks
Dowse07: bets £3.50
2hi4me2cu: raises to £9.25
Dowse07: raises to £25.18 and is all-in
2hi4me2cu: calls £15.93
----- RIVER ----- [3c 4h Js Qh][Jc]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Dowse07: shows [Jd Jh] (Four of a kind, Jacks, Queen high)
2hi4me2cu: shows [4d 4c] (A Full House, Fours full of Jacks)
Dowse07 collected £53.45 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot £56.26 Main pot £53.45 Rake £2.81
Board [3c 4h Js Qh Jc]
Seat 1: 2hi4me2cu (big blind) showed [4d 4c] and lost with A Full House, Fours full of Jacks
Seat 2: Ccc007 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Wull316 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Dowse07 (button) showed [Jd Jh] and won (£53.45) with Four of a kind, Jacks, Queen high
Seat 6: Ballla (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Re: Can you get away from this?
 

Sorry should hav posted in bbv! o well..

Re: Can you get away from this?
 

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Sorry should hav posted in bbv! o well..

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Not if you want a serious answer.

Re: Can you get away from this?
 

Without any reads I would have called the turn and then gotten screwed on the river seeing the full house... that's tough

Re: Can you get away from this?
 

set over a set
that is not your day.
you know what they say about flop a set, if you lose, and you didn't lose alot of money, then you didn't play you hand right.
so good job.
I'll bet the flop/ or checkraise the flop. if i got raised, i'll 3/4bet the flop.
if this is a loose/maniac player, then i'll just have to kiss my money goodbuy.
if this is from a Tight/Passive good player, if i get reraise for the seond time, i'll seriously consider if he has bigger set.
but at micro level, alot of player will go all-in with TPTK. so it would be +EV to push all the money in.
however at higher stake or again player that will not go all-in with TPTK. this you can consider folding.

Re: Can you get away from this?
 

Can you get away from this? Not unless you are an expert playing other experts at high stakes.

That all-in on the turn could represent any of the following: 33, Ah5h, Ah3h, Ah2h, AhJh, Th9h, KhJh, KhQh, KhTh, 6h5h, QJ, or AQ (and maybe for really loose players Khxh, KQ or JT). You're losing to JJ and QQ.

If someone here is good enough to lay this down, I'd really like to see the analysis.

Re: Can you get away from this?
 

Set over set is only a profitable situation if you can get away from ones they cant and most of the time you just cant get away. The only time i think i could is if both people were very deep stacked and villain was tight.

Re: Can you get away from this?
 

yeah, set over set and rivering quads, call it a cooler bc we are all going broke here.

Re: Can you get away from this?
 

Getting away from this ie. folding at any point in this hand would be quite a large mistake. Well played, bad result.

Re: Can you get away from this?
 

The only time to get away from it might have been pre-flop. You pretty much know at that point that you are at best a flip against whatever this guy has, even if he is a complete monkey.

It's a little different since you are playing cash but I think the following still applies: Harrington says that if you get set over sett'ed, you are an idiot if you don't end up going broke. He goes on to discourage playing 22-44 for the purpose of making a set due to the fact that they can often break you when you do make your set.