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Laetus 10-19-2007 10:49 AM

How to extract maximum value and loose minimum w/ KK?
 
I was unsure which the optimal line would be on this flop. I assume I'm willing to get it in against picchio75 on flop. Do you agree w/ that? But I'm unsure if I want to get it in w/ gutelaunedan. Furthermore the check on turn is b/c I doubt he will call two bets w/ weakish pairs, but definitley one barrel and I loose less against a set/straight. Is this line fine?
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Reads:
gutelaunedan 65/4/1 over 50 hands
picchio75 59/14/2 over 63 hands
HERO TAG
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EverestPoker Game #2236254719: Table Bamako-4 - $2.00/$4.00 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:30:37 - 2007/10/19
Seat 1: picchio75 ($668.73)
Seat 2: Bruno.Dias. ($136.10)
Seat 3: NeverLast ($392.00)
Seat 4: HERO ($386.10)
Seat 5: elfuego1111 ($408.27)
Seat 6: gutelaunedan ($342.05)
elfuego1111 posts the small blind of $2.00
gutelaunedan posts the big blind of $4.00
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO[K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
picchio75 calls $4.00
Bruno.Dias. calls $4.00
NeverLast folds
HERO raises to $22.00
elfuego1111 folds
gutelaunedan calls $18.00
picchio75 calls $18.00
Bruno.Dias. folds
*** FLOP *** [6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
gutelaunedan checks
picchio75 checks
HERO bets $48.00
gutelaunedan calls $48.00
picchio75 folds
*** TURN *** [6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] [T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
gutelaunedan checks
HERO checks
*** RIVER *** [6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] [T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
gutelaunedan checks
HERO bets $84.00
gutelaunedan calls $84.00

Snygaard 10-19-2007 10:53 AM

Re: How to extract maximum value and loose minimum w/ KK?
 
If you want to lose the minimum you shouldnt be betting the river obv. But if you want to win the maximum, betting is fine.
Damn this is a tricky question.

Kala1928 10-19-2007 10:54 AM

Re: How to extract maximum value and loose minimum w/ KK?
 
You propably win the maximum if you bet the turn and the river. And fold if he does something other than call or fold.

Praetor 10-19-2007 11:02 AM

Re: How to extract maximum value and loose minimum w/ KK?
 
gutelaunedan 65/4/1 over 50 hands

Furthermore the check on turn is b/c I doubt he will call two bets w/ weakish pairs


what?

Borned_Luckbox1 10-19-2007 11:04 AM

Re: How to extract maximum value and loose minimum w/ KK?
 
Easiest turn bet ever?

fringsrache 10-19-2007 11:22 AM

Re: How to extract maximum value and loose minimum w/ KK?
 
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Easiest turn bet ever?

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higHstaKesOwneR 10-19-2007 11:24 AM

Re: How to extract maximum value and loose minimum w/ KK?
 
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gutelaunedan 65/4/1 over 50 hands

Furthermore the check on turn is b/c I doubt he will call two bets w/ weakish pairs


what?

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i bet turn and river

i think 65/4 donkeys like this will call the turn very often with a lot weak hands

JammyDodga 10-19-2007 11:32 AM

Re: How to extract maximum value and loose minimum w/ KK?
 
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Reads:
gutelaunedan 65/4/1 over 50 hands
picchio75 59/14/2 over 63 hands
HERO TAG
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Wow, how often do you get players like this at 2/4. Are they donkeys or good lags?

Jees, I need to move up already.

Laetus 10-19-2007 11:33 AM

Re: How to extract maximum value and loose minimum w/ KK?
 
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gutelaunedan 65/4/1 over 50 hands

Furthermore the check on turn is b/c I doubt he will call two bets w/ weakish pairs


what?

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Okay, seems like is should have betted turn then... the reason I played so weak was probably due to my overpairs have been raped badly lately [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]. But you fold against a raise, right?

higHstaKesOwneR 10-19-2007 11:36 AM

Re: How to extract maximum value and loose minimum w/ KK?
 
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<font color="green">
Reads:
gutelaunedan 65/4/1 over 50 hands
picchio75 59/14/2 over 63 hands
HERO TAG
</font>

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Wow, how often do you get players like this at 2/4. Are they donkeys or good lags?

Jees, I need to move up already.

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def. good lags


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