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Fat Nicky 10-18-2007 06:36 PM

KQ flops TP and TAG villain fires 3 streets.
 
villain is 21/18/3..no history between us and I don't know much about him except that he seems to be playing quite aggressive.

he got his stack by flopping 2 big hands against a donk, he played them straightforward - all the money was in on the flop in both of those hands.

I 3-bet pre-flop most of the time, but I just elected to call here..please do not focus on pre-flop.

Full Tilt Poker, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $316.10
UTG: $656.80
Hero (BTN): $237
SB: $198

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7</font>, Hero calls $7, 2 folds

Flop: ($17) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $12</font>, Hero calls $12

Turn: ($41) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $26</font>, Hero calls $26

River: ($93) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $63</font>, Hero ?????

also:

if villain bets full pot?
if he over bet shoves?

rberg 10-18-2007 06:43 PM

Re: KQ flops TP and TAG villain fires 3 streets.
 
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I 3-bet pre-flop most of the time, but I just elected to call here..please do not focus on pre-flop.


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Still one thing i want to say: fold


I think a river fold is fine. turn might be close, but without much information about him except that he is agggressive i guess it's fine too.

Claunchy 10-18-2007 06:47 PM

Re: KQ flops TP and TAG villain fires 3 streets.
 
Meh, I probably call. He's repping a fairly narrow range here.

the machine 10-18-2007 06:48 PM

Re: KQ flops TP and TAG villain fires 3 streets.
 
i think this is close and probably close to 0EV on the river with a possible range. he may fire with hitting a J on the turn because he may put you on a draw, and lead the river for value against a King. i call this river however.


and i dont fold PF

BanZaY 10-18-2007 06:51 PM

Re: KQ flops TP and TAG villain fires 3 streets.
 
im calling here as played but its close... maybe if u expect a 3-barrel from this guy tends to call more...

oh...in turn his 2nd barrel is poor small try to raise there...

Fat Nicky 10-18-2007 07:08 PM

Re: KQ flops TP and TAG villain fires 3 streets.
 
ok...so we're calling $63...

but what about if he bets full pot? overbet shoves?

and for the poster who said to fold pre-flop...plz note it's 4-handed, so the pft is effectively in the CO seat

Claunchy 10-18-2007 07:17 PM

Re: KQ flops TP and TAG villain fires 3 streets.
 
If he bets any bigger I'd probably be more inclined to fold. Shrug. Worse odds.

Fat Nicky 10-18-2007 07:28 PM

Re: KQ flops TP and TAG villain fires 3 streets.
 
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oh...in turn his 2nd barrel is poor small try to raise there...

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what? raising is soooo bad here. and his bet is a pretty standard size.

bilbo-san 10-18-2007 08:17 PM

Re: KQ flops TP and TAG villain fires 3 streets.
 
Depends on reads.

Readless guys with these stats probably 3-barrel a lot but also value-bet a ton. I think you can really flip a coin.


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