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felipe71arg 10-17-2007 11:05 PM

NL50 AA facing turn bet
 
Villain is 40/4/1.5 in about 850 hands, mostly datamined.
He was very quiet this session, and multitabling. He almost time out before the turn donk...


iPoker Skin 0.25/0.50, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

Button ($154.60)
SB ($61.10)
BB ($64.80)
UTG - Hero ($53.65)
UTG+1 ($13.25)
CO ($27.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero raises to 2.00, 3 folds, SB calls 1.75, 1 fold.

Flop (4.50) 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB checks, Hero bets 3.50, SB calls 3.50.

Turn (11.50) 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB bets 7.50, Hero ??

bored 10-18-2007 03:25 AM

Re: NL50 AA facing turn bet
 
I probably call and call a moderate bet on the river.

I'm not very good at folding overpairs though.

orange 10-18-2007 03:28 AM

Re: NL50 AA facing turn bet
 
call/see river. you are still ahead of his range for sure.

whyzze 10-18-2007 03:32 AM

Re: NL50 AA facing turn bet
 
At first I thought calling here and river is ok.

Butt I would prefer a raise/fold on this turn.

there is plenty of value to be had here and this is very often pair + draw. either a pair on the flop that picked up a fd/combo draw or a hand like 97. His agression is somewhat average...I think he has a hand that he will call a raisse with alot.

Make it 20. Fold if he shoves.

If he calls and then checks the river, definaately consider a shove.

Berky 10-18-2007 04:32 AM

Re: NL50 AA facing turn bet
 
Why is no one raising this turn? I raise and I will probably call a shove IMO. What are you guys worried about? IMO this smells of a QK donk. Do you really think hes going to lead out with a straight or a set? No, IMO he c/r both.

slush420 10-18-2007 04:35 AM

Re: NL50 AA facing turn bet
 
I would def raise turn here but I think calling a turn 3bet is spew. The guy is pretty loose-passive and multitabling, so I doubt he would shove worse hands here.

Berky 10-18-2007 04:38 AM

Re: NL50 AA facing turn bet
 
I don't think it's that Spewy. What hand does he show here that we are really worried about?If he's got 97 then let him shove.

I really doubt he has the straight already and It doesn't seem that he played it like a set would.

slush420 10-18-2007 04:42 AM

Re: NL50 AA facing turn bet
 
there's not too many hands we are worried about when he bets the turn. But when he shoves over the top of our turn raise, I think there's many hands to worry about.. 66-88, 67, 78 maybe since opponent is loose. But the fact that he multitables I don't think he's gonna shove with kq or OESD very often here.

felipe71arg 10-18-2007 09:32 AM

Re: NL50 AA facing turn bet
 
Thanks for the answers. My thoughts was if i raise here im committed to the pot with one pair and i dont like it. Anyone think this guy is capable of making this move with AK o KQ?

orange 10-18-2007 06:08 PM

Re: NL50 AA facing turn bet
 
omg raise/folding this turn is so bad. like...god...[censored]...awful. if you raise, you MUST call the shove. not that i think raising is a great play to begin with vs. this passive guy.


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