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DaycareInferno 10-17-2007 06:24 AM

nl100 AK on bad board.
 
villain is 18/16/4.5. i've got him on a couple of tables and he's pretty tight all around, but seems like the kind of guy that overplays top pair/overpair type hands. rest of the table is real bad, so i don't care if anyone of them tags along.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $132.85
BB: $65.90
UTG: $183.30
Hero (CO): $100
BTN: $59.85

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $3.50</font>, Hero calls $3.50, 3 folds

Flop: ($8.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $8.50</font>, Hero calls $8.50

Turn: ($25.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($25.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12</font>

any point in the river bet? i felt like he almost never calls it, but that at the same time, he never crs me there with a better hand. i would have called if he did.

shandyboy 10-17-2007 06:50 AM

Re: nl100 AK on bad board.
 
Bet the turn not the river.
Why give the free card?

DaycareInferno 10-17-2007 06:52 AM

Re: nl100 AK on bad board.
 
my thinking was that he's only got 2 outs, and there isn't much value in betting there against a utg bet/folde, not that there's much on the river either.

shandyboy 10-17-2007 06:57 AM

Re: nl100 AK on bad board.
 
agreed, not much value either way, I still think the first 2 streets are where its at though.
Why let (a possible) AJ, JJ? catch up. I doubt ur getting much more value regardless unless villain hits, and then ur prolly behind to 2pair/trips.

xoom 10-17-2007 06:59 AM

Re: nl100 AK on bad board.
 
Bet 1/2 pot turn, no point in giving a free card. Sets up meta for floats in position on scary flops nicely as well. I'll usually re-raise PF.

DaycareInferno 10-17-2007 07:00 AM

Re: nl100 AK on bad board.
 
i don't think AJ is even in his range, other than AJs maybe. you're probably right though.

a couple of sidenotes:

i 3bet AK 95% of the time, but i thought this was a reasonable time not to. seem decent considering the villain/table?

if there was no Q on the flop, i'm obviously raising there. i thought it was pointless against this guy on that board though, because AK/AQ is probably about it for aces when he's utg.

1gotth3nuts 10-17-2007 12:15 PM

Re: nl100 AK on bad board.
 
18/16's raise AJo and probably AT UTG....

HoldEmNewby 10-17-2007 12:59 PM

Re: nl100 AK on bad board.
 
Given your read I'd bet the turn and bet the river (maybe push if its not a [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img],Q,J,T).

shandyboy 10-18-2007 04:28 AM

Re: nl100 AK on bad board.
 
[ QUOTE ]
18/16's raise AJo and probably AT UTG....

[/ QUOTE ]

agreed, id say AJo and ATs are in a 18/16s range utg.

LeadbellyDan 10-18-2007 05:29 AM

Re: nl100 AK on bad board.
 
The table's 5 handed right? AJ and AT are definately in his range. You need to bet the turn. Im also not convinced theres any reason not to 3bet preflop.


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