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stackingboxes 10-17-2007 12:59 AM

400nl, spider sense says bluff, what to do
 
villians is a reg. 20/16/4, he is very capable of making moves, and in this hand my spider sense is going nuts.

a little abit about this hand.

HE insta insta called my preflop raise. then on the flop he insta raised me. I donno, seemed so fishy to me. Does anyone CRAI the turn when they feel something is up? or is this a fold?

I know very well that my read could be wrong and him having like 78 99 88 or some [censored]

Party Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $400
BTN: $117
SB: $783.30
BB: $400
Hero (UTG): $450.70

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, CO calls $14, 3 folds

Flop: ($34) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $25</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $86</font>, Hero calls $61

Turn: ($206) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $144</font>, Hero folds

Results: $206 Pot
CO mucked and WON $347.50 (+$247.50 NET)


Party Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $400
BTN: $117
SB: $783.30
BB: $400
Hero (UTG): $450.70

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, CO calls $14, 3 folds

Flop: ($34) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $25</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $86</font>, Hero calls $61

Turn: ($206) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $144</font>, Hero folds

Results: $206 Pot
CO mucked and WON $347.50 (+$247.50 NET)

creative 10-17-2007 01:10 AM

Re: 400nl, spider sense says bluff, what to do
 
completely read based here imo

i dont like crai on the turn bc he calls all his better hands 100% of the time and he goes with all his semi bluffs anyways


i think this is a fold, bc if you call this turn you're bound to face a shove on the river and theres a bunch of cards you dont want to see...you'd pretty much squarely have to put him on 55-77 turning there hand into a bluff and go with it to make this call

ArturiusX 10-17-2007 01:20 AM

Re: 400nl, spider sense says bluff, what to do
 
Fold pre.

crazygoose 10-17-2007 01:41 AM

Re: 400nl, spider sense says bluff, what to do
 
I don't really like calling that flop raise on that board. You will face a turn bet a lot, you are OOP for rest of hand and there are a lot of bad turns. You're not losing much value from folding that flop.

captainwacky 10-17-2007 02:07 AM

Re: 400nl, spider sense says bluff, what to do
 
[ QUOTE ]
Fold pre.

[/ QUOTE ]

why?

stackingboxes 10-17-2007 02:19 AM

Re: 400nl, spider sense says bluff, what to do
 
[ QUOTE ]
Fold pre.

[/ QUOTE ]
I'm not a nit.

its not like i raise with this hand everytime.

my question was really what u would do with a marginal hand but u think u'r opponent is bluffing his pants off. Most ppl tend to just play their cards.

Kwantum 10-17-2007 03:16 AM

Re: 400nl, spider sense says bluff, what to do
 
Turn is a very bad card for you. The J hits just about any draw he would be on other than 76.

I would probably have just released to his flop raise. You're going to face a second barrel way too often.

Folding Q9s preflop UTG doesn't make you a nit by the way. It's not horrible, it's just very very marginal -- this hand is a prime example of why.

Big_Jim 10-17-2007 03:18 AM

Re: 400nl, spider sense says bluff, what to do
 
If you can't trust your spidey sense, what can you trust?


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