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aceskay 10-16-2007 03:08 AM

capped pf w/AK
 
no real reads, have only been at table for 5 hands, no stats on either villain

should i really be going to the river with A-high in this situation?

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: (12.33 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.66 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero folds, CO calls.

River: (9.66 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 9.66 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Ac 8h (one pair, sixes).
CO has Qc As (one pair, sixes).
Outcome: CO wins 9.66 BB. </font>

Oink 10-16-2007 03:19 AM

Re: capped pf w/AK
 
Bad fold. Co has A8 and BB has AQ. You are way ahead yo!

Seriously tho.

You are ahead of BB always here but prolly share outs with him. I think I end up calling expecting BB to call behind me with 99% probability.

aceskay 10-16-2007 03:26 AM

Re: capped pf w/AK
 
how am i always ahead of bb when HE is the one who capped pf?

and flush draw also hit on the turn

edit: oops, didnt mean to include results

Oink 10-16-2007 04:02 AM

Re: capped pf w/AK
 
Without knowing the results.

What hand are you behind to on the flop? He capped preflop and peels that flop = overcards with 99% probability.


Ok. I see now that BB donked the turn.

Good fold

inferno 10-16-2007 04:19 AM

Re: capped pf w/AK
 
good fold imo

Gurravasa 10-16-2007 06:22 AM

Re: capped pf w/AK
 
I think that donk smells a lot like Ac making a semibluff. (yes I thought this before I checked the results). The problem is that we are sandwiched and CO bet the flop and the risk that he raises is considerable. If I knew villains where either LAG:s or TP:s it would be easy to decide but against total unknowns its a hard call to make. The pot is pretty big thou and you may have some outs if behind but those are very tainted and I think in the long run your fold is correct against unknowns.

Robin Foolz 10-16-2007 11:57 AM

Re: capped pf w/AK
 
you have no clubs so your overcard outs may be dirty. plus you have the flop bettor still left to act behind you. i actually like the turn fold as a default. it's rather close depending on your reads...

Absolution 10-16-2007 12:57 PM

Re: capped pf w/AK
 
I think the turn fold is fine, even though this is probably just random betting by the BB with his flush draw or thinking that paired boards are bluffing boards.

Stealthy 10-16-2007 02:38 PM

Re: capped pf w/AK
 
You cannot continue on this board even with the obvious line taken by BB. HU with BB yes but not with CO behind you.

YanMTL 10-16-2007 03:33 PM

Re: capped pf w/AK
 
When the BB capped preflop but didn't bet the flop so you have to know your ahead of him so i bet the flop here for the information about the 3better preflop. If he just call, i know that my chances to have the best hand here against AQ, AJ or KQs are very good.

If the BB donk the turn, i need a read to continu but with just that hand.


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