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TheMayor 10-15-2007 09:03 PM

25NL QQ oop
 
Villains preflop action is strange to me i'm not sure what to make of it? He limps as second one in and then reraises me...What do we put him on? Not that it matters much but he's 27/14 over only 25 hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($14.90)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($24.85)</font>
BB ($25)
UTG ($31.30)
UTG+1 ($13.75)
<font color="#C00000">MP1 ($22.50)</font>
MP2 ($6.15)
CO ($15.85)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $3</font>, MP2 folds, Hero calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $19.5</font>, Hero poops on keyboard

Turn: ($45.75) [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]($45.75) <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $45.75

Nick C 10-15-2007 09:11 PM

Re: 25NL QQ oop
 
I probably let him have it.

Villain's limp-reraise represents AA/KK, basically, although of course he won't always have one of those hands, and the fact that it's a min-LRR clouds the issue (is he trying to be trappy, or is he making a pot-building reraise with something speculative to be a nuisance or to try to take the initiative?).

I guess it's possible he has 44 and was trying to make sure he got it HU preflop versus your "probable" AK. But I don't like the looks of that flop bomb much, even though it does seem sort of inconsistent with Villain's preflop trickery.

Also, our sketchy stats read on Villain does suggest he's not a nutcase.

And, having said all of that, I do still think the decision is close.

ghostface 10-15-2007 09:14 PM

Re: 25NL QQ oop
 
I've seen all kinds of crap lrr'd. Unless you can put him on AA/KK shouldnt we be getting all in here cause of SPR?

Numfar 10-15-2007 09:15 PM

Re: 25NL QQ oop
 
Limp/re-raise in FR will often be AA/KK. I'm seeing it more often in 6 max from idiots with any two cards but not in FR. So, call and play for set value.

Flop, it feels like you are just sending villain $3.75. The raise can't have been unexpected. Either c/f or crai if you think he's full of it. I would often just c/c if I didn't believe him but there are draws available. My standard play would be c/f on a flop with no Q.


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