25/50 deep - passively played QQ v Urindanger
 

This hand was played by a friend of mine today. Main villain in the hand is Urindanger, who im sure a lot of you know. Hero and villain had both been fairly aggro, raising and 3betting light, although they hadnt got into any big pots with each other yet. The other guy was not particularly relevant as he was donkish and presumably the mark at the table.

Comments on all streets appreciated.

Full Tilt Poker, $25/$50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $9,910
UTG: $5,372
MP: $15,939
CO: $5,554
BTN: $17,874
SB: $5,563.75

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $175</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $175, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $725</font>, MP calls $550, BTN calls $550

Flop: ($2,200) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $1,500</font>, BTN folds, Hero calls $1,500

Turn: ($5,200) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP checks

River: ($5,200) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $4,200</font>, Hero?

Re: 25/50 deep - passively played QQ v Urindanger
 

Deep stacked out of position I would make a bigger RR preflop. Do you know your friends plan when he checked flop? Interesting hand..

Re: 25/50 deep - passively played QQ v Urindanger
 

IMO your friend's hand is face up by the river..... and the fact that urindanger bet into a 3 way pot on the flop indicates at least a big draw or a big hand....... all the draws got there, and AA/KK/set is still good....

I think this is a clear fold.

Re: 25/50 deep - passively played QQ v Urindanger
 

if hero had been 3-betting light, why didn't he bet the flop?

there is a reason you 3-bet light, and it's not so you can flop a 5 high flush draw and get all-in and suck out.

i would fold river against most players, and def urin

Re: 25/50 deep - passively played QQ v Urindanger
 

Yeah I'm really not a fan of the flop c/c, betting or c/ring are both much better. As played fold.

Re: 25/50 deep - passively played QQ v Urindanger
 

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if hero had been 3-betting light, why didn't he bet the flop?

there is a reason you 3-bet light, and it's not so you can flop a 5 high flush draw and get all-in and suck out.

i would fold river against most players, and def urin

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c/f flop or shove pf r really the only options, none of this garbage

Re: 25/50 deep - passively played QQ v Urindanger
 

hate flop you have no idea where you're at now. as played fold river.

Re: 25/50 deep - passively played QQ v Urindanger
 

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if hero had been 3-betting light, why didn't he bet the flop?

there is a reason you 3-bet light, and it's not so you can flop a 5 high flush draw and get all-in and suck out.

i would fold river against most players, and def urin

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c/f flop or shove pf r really the only options, none of this garbage

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this is correct.

Re: 25/50 deep - passively played QQ v Urindanger
 

okay, well it seems that everyone hates the flop c/c and prefers leading or check raising. fwiw i spoke to my friend about his flop play and he explained that had it been 100bb's he would have just bet/called or tried for a CRAI, but stack sizes made it awkward and so he ended up going with the c/c.

so now the question is, if you bet how are you responding to a raise, and if you CR are you going to call a push?