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jk3a 10-15-2007 12:21 AM

Since we checked 3 streets ???
 
Villain is 27/10 thru 30 hands.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $382.90
CO: $197
BTN: $70.15
SB: $273
Hero (BB): $200
UTG: $118.60

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $7</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $5

Flop: ($15) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $11</font>, Hero calls $11

Turn: ($37) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($37) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $22</font>,

Hopscotch 10-15-2007 12:22 AM

Re: Since we checked 3 streets ???
 
Uhh call yes?

shpanko 10-15-2007 12:29 AM

Re: Since we checked 3 streets ???
 
I'd like calling better if the flush hadn't come in, lots of times villains like this will check behind fearing the flush draw.

Jub. 10-15-2007 12:34 AM

Re: Since we checked 3 streets ???
 
Easy call, villain has a wide range and even though he should be checking the likes of AK(am I right). Villain does not seem competent thru first 30hands although that could be wrong. No point in raising as he only calls/raises with better and folds worse

shpanko 10-15-2007 01:50 AM

Re: Since we checked 3 streets ???
 
if I was hero I'd value-bet A8 on the river here, and probably bluff a decent amount with air, so yeah it's good

FishSticks 10-15-2007 02:09 AM

Re: Since we checked 3 streets ???
 
You're beat here plenty for sure, but getting almost 3:1 a call seems fine. As cliche as it sounds, there's probably some useful information regarding bluffing/thin value betting/turn pot control/whatever info to be gleaned here from a call as well.

Noam Chomsky 10-15-2007 10:23 AM

Re: Since we checked 3 streets ???
 
I think you're probably getting value-towned but I call and hate myself in the morning.

vos 10-15-2007 10:31 AM

Re: Since we checked 3 streets ???
 
villain so has KQ or something.. but A8 is also a small factor in his range.
this is an easy 3bet preflop imo

scallop 10-15-2007 10:38 AM

Re: Since we checked 3 streets ???
 
I think 3-bet pf is pretty bad.

If villian was bluffing, would he not bet more?

TT/JJ big part of his range? KQ. I'm not saying I would not call, but I dont think I would call vs 10 pfr% who checks turn and bets river like this... looks like he "wanted to be sure" before betting.

At least I wouldnt be "yay!!!!! fist pump... snap call".

FGators 10-15-2007 10:42 AM

Re: Since we checked 3 streets ???
 
You have to think that a guy like this knows his line looks bluffy/etc. and thats usually why he's making this bet. This is generally a fold for me, but then again people think I fold like the third nuts before showdown.


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