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Black winter day 10-14-2007 02:14 AM

2 Top sets...don\'t worry, i am not considering a fold
 
This was on 2 tables at the same time, so i got distracted and think i misplayed them both

Villain is 15/13/4.5, 21% went to sd, decent, tight reg

Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1144.50
UTG+1: $1667
CO: $1233
Button: $1132
SB: $1441.50
Hero: $2324

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $30</font>, CO calls, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($95, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $60</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $240</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($575, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $500</font>, UTG+1 folds.
Uncalled bets: $500 returned to Hero.

Here i think i made him fold something like JJ.Maybe even higher pp.
Check-call the turn representing fd and lead river?
He could check behind for pot control, but i still get value on the river...
This not the type of villain that will stack off on JJ here with almost 170 bb deep.Bet less on the turn maybe?

Results:
Final pot: $575


UTG is the same villain from the previous hand, UTG+1 is 19/12/4, 25% went to sd,also decent tight reg

Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1420
UTG+1: $1562.75
CO: $1626.50
Button: $2195.25
Hero: $975
BB: $960.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $30</font>, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Button folds, Hero calls, BB folds.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($130, 4 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $90</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $230</font>, CO folds, Hero calls, UTG folds.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($680, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in $715</font>, UTG+1 folds.
Uncalled bets: $715 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $680

Here i just didn't know what to do on the flop.Whether i shove or call, my hand is pretty transparent.On the turn i basically decided that i hope he has smaller set or small overpair that will put me on a combo draw and just shoved.
Do i give a free card in case he has fd himself and check?

Basically, i feel that i missed a lot of value on both hands.

invid 10-14-2007 02:19 AM

Re: 2 Top sets...don\'t worry, i am not considering a fold
 
1) looks fine
2) raise that [censored] flop

jessica1994 10-14-2007 02:32 AM

Re: 2 Top sets...don\'t worry, i am not considering a fold
 
1. no he did not fold TT.
2. please raise the flop.

Black winter day 10-14-2007 02:36 AM

Re: 2 Top sets...don\'t worry, i am not considering a fold
 
[ QUOTE ]
1. no he did not fold TT.
2. please raise the flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

Oops, edited the OP on 1.I ment, JJ-QQ.

d2themfi 10-14-2007 02:40 AM

Re: 2 Top sets...don\'t worry, i am not considering a fold
 
I would probably lead both of these,

as played on 1 there is not much you can do, some players just wont pay you off in big pots without the nuts, hand two, I think i would just 4bet the flop, cause anything you do looks super strong and you want to charge any draw

Black winter day 10-14-2007 02:54 AM

Re: 2 Top sets...don\'t worry, i am not considering a fold
 
I lead with sets sometimes, but usually when we are HU with the pfr, i almost never lead on drawey boards into several opponents, cause it just looks superstrong and i was right next to the pfr both times, so hoped to sandwich some extra calls to his cbets.

d2themfi 10-14-2007 03:04 AM

Re: 2 Top sets...don\'t worry, i am not considering a fold
 
well both these boards seem ideal to lead on to me. But I probably lead more than most people so I guess it depends

Praetor 10-14-2007 10:46 AM

Re: 2 Top sets...don\'t worry, i am not considering a fold
 
1 is fine

2 shove the flop, they might put you on combo draw or a fd

Kala1928 10-14-2007 11:00 AM

Re: 2 Top sets...don\'t worry, i am not considering a fold
 
[ QUOTE ]

2 shove the flop, they might have a combo draw

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Unknown Soldier 10-14-2007 11:02 AM

Re: 2 Top sets...don\'t worry, i am not considering a fold
 
2: you do know how redic strong you look, right?


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