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solvine 10-13-2007 05:27 PM

NL 100 - standard fold???
 
Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG+1: $109.80
MP1: $76.10
MP2: $160.70
CO: $106.65
Hero (BTN): $97
SB: $94.75
BB: $53.60
UTG: $97.40

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, MP1 calls $1, MP2 calls $1, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.50</font>, 3 folds, MP2 calls $4.50

Flop: ($13.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP2 bets $9</font>, Hero calls $9

Turn: ($31.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP2 bets $21</font>, Hero calls $21

River: ($73.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP2 bets $38</font>, Hero folds

Results: $73.50 Pot ($3 Rake)
MP2 mucked and WON $70.50 (+$35 NET)

villain is 26/6/0.8 after 50 hands

forestwithin 10-13-2007 11:13 PM

Re: NL 100 - standard fold???
 
Yeah this would be a standard fold against someone with a .8 aggression factor.

CalledDownLight 10-13-2007 11:21 PM

Re: NL 100 - standard fold???
 
Make your decision on the turn. If you think you're good on the turn then call the river. If you don't then fold the turn.

Panthro 10-13-2007 11:59 PM

Re: NL 100 - standard fold???
 
I fold that turn alot

Albert Moulton 10-14-2007 01:38 AM

Re: NL 100 - standard fold???
 
With two limpers already in the pot, I win more and lose less when I limp a hand like this (unsuited broadway semi-connector) on the button than when I raise. Guys will limp/call KQs and AJ and in some cases even JJ - all of which put you in a lot of trouble if you hit top pair. And while your poor starting hand's weakness is compensated by your position on the button, making the pot bigger only makes sense if you strongly suspect to take down the pot on just about any flop by making a cb. But then you really don't even need unsuited broadways. In a game like that where you rely on raise+cb-w/fold-equity as your primary game plan, you'd do better to raise total junk that you can fold when played back at rather than dominated hands like this one that you call off lots of chips with as an underdog.

As played, when a guy with a 0.8 post flop aggression number limp/calls and then donk bets into you twice you are probably toast on the turn when he fires the second barrel. Fold the turn.

As played, folding the river is better than calling, but you really have very little new information on the river that you didn't already have on the turn. So, if you beaten on this river, you were beaten and could have recognized it on the turn.

holdem2000 10-14-2007 03:44 AM

Re: NL 100 - standard fold???
 
[ QUOTE ]
Yeah this would be a standard fold against someone with a .8 aggression factor.

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.8 AF after 50 hands... villain has only put money in on 13 pots, with very very little post flop play... AF takes well over a thousand hands to come close to converging, this .8 is completely meaningless.

ranka 10-14-2007 07:16 AM

Re: NL 100 - standard fold???
 
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Make your decision on the turn. If you think you're good on the turn then call the river. If you don't then fold the turn.

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I agreed!


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