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cashy 10-13-2007 01:03 PM

3bet pot with Kings, Villain overcalls
 
I have no Stats on Villain and he doesent know me either(Im knew to ftp)



Full Tilt Poker, $5/$10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $1,078.50
MP: $970
CO: $1,058
BTN: $1,011
Hero (SB): $990
BB: $1,229.80

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $35</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $125</font>, BB calls $115, CO folds

Flop: ($285) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: ($285) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $285</font>, Hero calls $285

River: ($855) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $819.80 and is All-In</font>,

My line looks pretty weak so i wonder if Villain has something like TT/AK often enough to make this is a call?
Meh, i hate to play against unknowns.

wtf5 10-13-2007 01:08 PM

Re: 3bet pot with Kings, Villain overcalls
 
well if BB is a reg then i'd snap fold as its the worst possible flop.

Against a random is much closer. He'd have to be retarded to check the flop with QQ or JJ yet hes prob slowplaying JJ. I think i'd lean towards a fold even though im a station with an overpair...

jfish 10-13-2007 01:16 PM

Re: 3bet pot with Kings, Villain overcalls
 
cf turn

ArturiusX 10-13-2007 01:30 PM

Re: 3bet pot with Kings, Villain overcalls
 
River is a snap fold, if he's got the balls to do this with AK, then he deserves the pot.

Believe it or not, I think I bet this turn..... Arg, so torn.

cashy 10-13-2007 01:37 PM

Re: 3bet pot with Kings, Villain overcalls
 
Ya, i foldet the river pretty fast but isnt c/f turn too weak?
Especially an Unknown will bet the turn and check behind the river with a worse hand a decent amount of the time.

ArturiusX 10-13-2007 01:38 PM

Re: 3bet pot with Kings, Villain overcalls
 
Meh, I don't think he'd bluff this turn enough, to be honest.

Up-grey-de 10-13-2007 01:50 PM

Re: 3bet pot with Kings, Villain overcalls
 
Without any reads, easy fold. Villian has to think that there is a chance that you are slowplaying a made hand when you just checkcall turn, therefore I think that his line is a bluff very seldom, so a call without reads here is very bad in my opinion.

tozzy 10-13-2007 02:26 PM

Re: 3bet pot with Kings, Villain overcalls
 
anyone think this is more likely to be total air/nuts (JJ) when he sets his turnbet up for a rivershove?

FireStorm 10-13-2007 02:30 PM

Re: 3bet pot with Kings, Villain overcalls
 
Looks like a fairly easy fold to me. Your hand is underrepped but it still looks to me like his hand is not worried about getting to showdown.

homeboy604 10-13-2007 02:47 PM

Re: 3bet pot with Kings, Villain overcalls
 
seems weird to me to shutdown on the flop when a Q &amp; J flop.
its not like there was an ace on it.


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