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Schmitty 87 10-13-2007 07:59 AM

(16) AKs vs 3bet
 
CO is 20/0/0 over <10 hands.

Poker Stars, $15 + $1 NL Hold'em Tournament, 25/50 Blinds, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: 1,615
BTN: 1,050
SB: 1,420
BB: 1,640
UTG: 1,270
Hero (UTG+1): 1,730
UTG+2: 1,365
MP1: 1,750
MP2: 1,660

Pre-Flop: (75) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG+1)
UTG calls 50, <font color="red">Hero raises to 225</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to 550</font>, 4 folds, <font color="red">Hero ???

Little John 10-13-2007 08:41 AM

Re: (16) AKs vs 3bet
 
jeez schmitty, you are posting tough ones.

i would raise to 200 preflop. ug is a bit too short for you to just call preflop and hope to flop an ace or king. with all the overlay i would just push pre. there are 525 dead chips, you need to put in 1045 to win 2615, so 40% for neutral chip ev. you are 42.8% vs JJ+ AK so pushing seems fine, he could easily surprise you with a much worse holding.

Schmitty 87 10-13-2007 09:01 AM

Re: (16) AKs vs 3bet
 
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jeez schmitty, you are posting tough ones.

i would raise to 200 preflop. ug is a bit too short for you to just call preflop and hope to flop an ace or king. with all the overlay i would just push pre. there are 525 dead chips, you need to put in 1045 to win 2615, so 40% for neutral chip ev. you are 42.8% vs JJ+ AK so pushing seems fine, he could easily surprise you with a much worse holding.

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i do my best.

ya i was wondering how AKs fared vs. a range like JJ+,AK or QQ+,AK. though to be fair i think the pairs deserve more weight in his range than AK (or at least make up for the additional AK combos). My thinking at the time was "wow there's a lot of money in there. i can't think of a hand i can beat that he'd play like that, but [censored] it i'm not folding." seems sorta spewy.

Little John 10-13-2007 09:32 AM

Re: (16) AKs vs 3bet
 
you might get the ocassional AQ or AJ, but you also see some clown with 66 a lot. i did my calcualation in pokerstove and i believe it takes into account that you have an ace and a king. so if villians ranges is JJ+ AK+ his hand combinations are as follows:

JJ - 6
QQ - 6
KK - 3 (because you have a king)
AA - 3 (you have ace)
AK - 9 (instead of 16)

sonneti 10-13-2007 11:26 AM

Re: (16) AKs vs 3bet
 
All in, fist pump... Sick when his 66 holds up though [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]


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