Call an all-in against one possibly two players on a draw?
 

MP raiser has been fairly loose while the BB has been tight. This is a hand my bud got involved in the other day. I've been debating what the proper play. We're behind almost always here and most likely have fewer outs than what appears on the surface..thoughts on calling off our stack here? IMO, if we're closing the action and are 100% heads up its an instacall but against possibly two villians..I'm having trouble getting the chips in...

PokerStars Game #12520228284: Tournament #63176879,
$25.00+$2.50
Hold'emNo Limit - Level XII (600/1200) - 2007/10/08 -
23:01:37 (ET)
Table '63176879 134' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: DanishGambit (9702 in chips)
Seat 2: 1968euro (18230 in chips)
Seat 3: Improved (47521 in chips)
Seat 4: ozwho (7198 in chips)
Seat 5: DahJinerat (44894 in chips)
Seat 6: spicoli_tw (52441 in chips)
Seat 7: raiceraw (65468 in chips)
Seat 8: heimis (15358 in chips)
Seat 9: AArriyA (17271 in chips)
DanishGambit: posts the ante 125
1968euro: posts the ante 125
Improved: posts the ante 125
ozwho: posts the ante 125
> > > > DahJinerat: posts the ante 125
> > > > spicoli_tw: posts the ante 125
> > > > raiceraw: posts the ante 125
> > > > heimis: posts the ante 125
> > > > AArriyA: posts the ante 125
> > > > spicoli_tw: posts small blind 600
> > > > raiceraw: posts big blind 1200
> > > > *** HOLE CARDS ***
> > > > Dealt to spicoli_tw [9h Qh]
> > > > heimis: folds
> > > > AArriyA: folds
> > > > DanishGambit: folds
> > > > 1968euro: folds
> > > > Improved: raises 1799 to 2999
> > > > ozwho: folds
> > > > DahJinerat: folds
> > > > spicoli_tw: calls 2399
> > > > raiceraw: calls 1799
> > > > *** FLOP *** [Th Qs 8h]
> > > > spicoli_tw: bets 4800
> > > > raiceraw: raises 4800 to 9600
> > > > Improved: raises 34797 to 44397 and is all-in

Re: Call an all-in against one possibly two players on a draw?
 

horribly bad pre. What is your plan here first to act after calling this?

Re: Call an all-in against one possibly two players on a draw?
 

no question..preflop is a fold or resteal from a loose opener..thats not in question here. assume he had no 'plan'..but with the lead out on the flop, I get it all in when faced with a reraise, but now we're faced with two way resistence...

Re: Call an all-in against one possibly two players on a draw?
 

fold preflop, check flop

Re: Call an all-in against one possibly two players on a draw?
 

ya got yourself into this mess......

Re: Call an all-in against one possibly two players on a draw?
 

Hand is so much easier to play if u check IMO. Your lead is so weak into a board with this many possible draws, that BB's min raise doesn't have to be J9. BB's action in this hand is so confusing? What possible range would u min raise with the LP preflop raiser still yet to act? It's either super strong, or a terrible play. Given the texture of this board, even if he has J9/QT his raise is way too small. He can't have J9hh, b.c u have the 9h. I don't think u can call with Q9s and fold it on one of the best flops that you could hope for. I'd shove and expect SB to fold or call with a hand that u still have decent equity against. LP has AQ;KK;AA more times than TT;QQ;88 here.

Re: Call an all-in against one possibly two players on a draw?
 

pf is bad
but i would never consider folding on this flop

Re: Call an all-in against one possibly two players on a draw?
 

once you get to where you are you have to go with it...push it all in and be happy