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phydaux 10-12-2007 03:27 PM

25NL - Do I value bet here?
 
One of the areas I've identified as a leak is that I'm not value betting enough on the river.

Recently I played this hand. I'd like some comments.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero ($31.35)</font>
CO ($14.90)
Button ($25)
SB ($36)
BB ($20.85)
UTG ($24.25)
UTG+1 ($22.40)
<font color="#C00000">MP1 ($20.65)</font>

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP1 posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 (poster) raises to $0.75</font>, Hero calls $0.75, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.50.

Flop: ($2.60) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $1.50.

Turn: ($5.60) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, MP1 calls $3.

River: ($11.60) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, Hero....?

MP1's play just screams "Slowplaying a made hand." Was he slowplaying two pair, a flopped straight or a draw that came through on the turn or river?

Do you bet here, or check behind?

swainy 10-12-2007 03:36 PM

Re: 25NL - Do I value bet here?
 
i would raise with 64s from mp1..... but i would bet my hand on flop... but thats me, not the villain...

if he's got 2 big hearts then he is going to call that turn bet cos he's getting almost 3:1 odds on the call and would fancy his chances of his flush getting paid by your set or straight.....

i wouldn't value bet here because what is going to call that you beat? 22, 33, or a strangely played overpair. i feel i miss some value bets too, but not here, im happy to check.

wiseman1016 10-12-2007 03:38 PM

Re: 25NL - Do I value bet here?
 
I'd bet more on flop and I think that checking behind is a better option because there are not many worse hands calling you on this board, plus every draw got there, so checking behind is a better option imo

CaptVimes 10-12-2007 03:52 PM

Re: 25NL - Do I value bet here?
 
That is one seriously ugly board. The weak tight in me is saying thank you for not betting that river. I mean what kind of hand can call a bet here? If you had two pair/overpair are you calling? Pretty much everything got there. I check behind here.

RapidEvolution 10-12-2007 04:24 PM

Re: 25NL - Do I value bet here?
 
On this drawy board, I'm firing more money at the flop and turn. The river check is definitely good here, though.

GiantBuddha 10-12-2007 04:32 PM

Re: 25NL - Do I value bet here?
 
Bet more on flop and turn, check river.

EN09 10-12-2007 04:37 PM

Re: 25NL - Do I value bet here?
 
on the flop i'm betting around 75% of pot with two hearts out there (why'd you bet the amount you did?). turn haf pot. river i check behind... i see no "value" in betting this board. i think you're only called by a hand which beats you. stats on villain?

EN

oakrdrzfan 10-12-2007 11:37 PM

Re: 25NL - Do I value bet here?
 
Bet more on the flop and turn. I doubt if the 7 helped a straight get there cause it is probably there already unless it was a gut shot,the flush just got there.

If you have stats on the player, you can look at ck rs % and maybe find a value bet. W/O stats, i ck river

mr.bum 10-13-2007 09:24 AM

Re: 25NL - Do I value bet here?
 
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Bet more on flop and turn, check river.

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