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Micro Donk 10-10-2007 04:10 PM

25NL: AKs, make TPTK on the river, facing pot bet
 
from a somewhat passive player (55/10/.56 over 97)

converter doesnt count for rake so it was a slightly bigger bet in relation to the pot then it says

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $22.30
CO: $27.80
Hero (BTN): $31.55
SB: $24.30
BB: $39.30

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $0.25, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $1

Flop: ($2.85) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.75</font>, UTG calls $1.75

Turn: ($6.35) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($6.35) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $5</font> Hero...

Perk76 10-10-2007 04:13 PM

Re: 25NL: AKs, make TPTK on the river, facing pot bet
 
I usually fold in spots like this. Villans tend to know that when you bet a flop, check the turn, and an Ace or King hits on the river that there is a strong likely hood that you have it. A strong bet here on the river generally has you beat.

Shattered 10-10-2007 04:41 PM

Re: 25NL: AKs, make TPTK on the river, facing pot bet
 
Postflop reads are really important, but I usually call here. I'd say villain's betting worse aces more often than not, considering he's probably floating a lot OoP with A high with those stats. Besides, .56 AF isn't *that* passive for a VPIP over 50.
Perk, I think you're giving villain too much credit for hand reading. The thought process of people with stats that fishy tends to be, "Oh, I hit an ace, bet pot!" The problem here is that it could easily be "Oh, I hit two pair, bet pot!"

Micro Donk 10-10-2007 10:57 PM

Re: 25NL: AKs, make TPTK on the river, facing pot bet
 
bump

edit: as for the bet size on the flop, was it a bit too small?

winzton 10-10-2007 11:34 PM

Re: 25NL: AKs, make TPTK on the river, facing pot bet
 
for the flop bet, i would usually do 2-2.25ish

and for the river i would consider calling because I would imagine villain having either an AQ, AJ, possibly A10

slimon 10-11-2007 02:23 AM

Re: 25NL: AKs, make TPTK on the river, facing pot bet
 
Is there a right answer here whether or not to call the river?

defence18 10-11-2007 02:52 PM

Re: 25NL: AKs, make TPTK on the river, facing pot bet
 
[ QUOTE ]
Is there a right answer here whether or not to call the river?

[/ QUOTE ]
Sure there is, but we need to see villian's cards before we know what it is.

No one thinks this is a bluff attempt when the flush card hits?

pdiggz 10-11-2007 03:04 PM

Re: 25NL: AKs, make TPTK on the river, facing pot bet
 
Bet a little more on the flop, $2 or so. I probably call the river, but expect to lose somewhat frequently. I think you see AQ/AJ/AT enough, to warrant the call. However, 65/A6/and flushes probably show up a good amount.

He limps or limp/calls so often its pretty hard to put him on a hand and you have TPTK, so call.


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