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Alchemist 10-10-2007 03:56 PM

Razz steal gets picked off
 
And I proceed to mangle it horribly. Should I just give it up on 4th?

Razz ($0.50/$1), Ante $0.10, Bring-In $0.15 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.40 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls
Seat 2: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 3: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___completes
Seat 5: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (3.40 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets
Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls

5th Street - (2.70 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises
Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets___calls

6th Street - (6.70 BB)

Seat 1: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets
Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds

Total pot: (6.70 BB - $6.70)

RustyBrooks 10-10-2007 04:03 PM

Re: Razz steal gets picked off
 
Lay it down on 4th (you know that's the right thing to do)

If not then you must fold 5th.

roggles 10-10-2007 04:05 PM

Re: Razz steal gets picked off
 
c/c is the worst possible line to take on 4th

Alchemist 10-10-2007 04:06 PM

Re: Razz steal gets picked off
 
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Lay it down on 4th (you know that's the right thing to do)

If not then you must fold 5th.

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Any merit to betting 4th? Surely I would if I had a legit starting hand, plus he might have paired the 6. Either way it must be better than c/c.

roggles 10-10-2007 04:10 PM

Re: Razz steal gets picked off
 
There isn't really. If he didn't believe you before he won't now, and even if you have A2 in the hole it's pretty even at this point if he didn't pair his 6.

betgo 10-10-2007 04:50 PM

Re: Razz steal gets picked off
 
As played, I would check/fold 5th also. At least check/call.

HOWMANY 10-10-2007 04:58 PM

Re: Razz steal gets picked off
 
Either bet 4th or c/f.

pdiggz 10-10-2007 06:14 PM

Re: Razz steal gets picked off
 
Good play on 3rd to complete. c/f 4th. He's not folding this hand. He's given you all the info you need to know. Hardly cost you anything.

betgo 10-10-2007 06:53 PM

Re: Razz steal gets picked off
 
[ QUOTE ]
Good play on 3rd to complete. c/f 4th. He's not folding this hand. He's given you all the info you need to know. Hardly cost you anything.

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Even if you had perfect hole cards, you would only be slight favorite. If a wheel card hit, it might be OK to fire again, hoping he paired. Villain's hand is pretty much face up on 4th, and has yours crushed. Check/call is really awful.

Praxising 10-10-2007 07:24 PM

Re: Razz steal gets picked off
 
[ QUOTE ]
Razz ($0.50/$1), Ante $0.10, Bring-In $0.15 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.40 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___brings-in___calls
Seat 2: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 3: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___completes
Seat 5: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (3.40 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets
Hero: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___checks___calls


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4th is an auto-bet - you have the best four-card hand, you have T hi. And if you don't, you sure don't want him to know it. Or fold if you don't feel very gambly. No checking - checking is bad.


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