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onehandfold 10-09-2007 11:47 PM

Set and overpair plays...50NL what do you think?
 
Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO ($43.25)
Button ($22.95)
SB ($11.45)
<font color="#C00000">BB ($47.05)</font>
UTG ($22.95)
UTG+1 ($55.45)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($55.50)</font>
MP2 ($98.65)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $1.50, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: ($3) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $2</font>, Hero calls $2.

Turn: ($7) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, BB calls $3.

River: ($13) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $9</font>, Hero calls $9.

Final Pot: $31

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 7s 7h (full house, sevens full of aces).
Hero has 3d 3h (full house, threes full of aces).
Outcome: BB wins $31. </font>



Hand 2:


Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">BB ($54.65)</font>
UTG ($22.25)
UTG+1 ($48.75)
MP1 ($51.35)
MP2 ($44.85)
MP3 ($54.25)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($52.40)</font>
Button ($16.55)
SB ($47.40)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.2</font>, Button calls $2.20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $9.05</font>, Hero calls $6.85, Button folds.

Flop: ($20.55) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($20.55) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $20.55</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $43.35 (All-In)</font>, BB calls $22.80.

River: ($107.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>
.

Final Pot: $107.25

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Qh Qs (two pair, queens and threes).
Hero has Kc Kd (two pair, kings and threes).
Outcome: Hero wins $107.25. </font>

Ctrl.Dominate 10-09-2007 11:56 PM

Re: Set and overpair plays...50NL what do you think?
 
Hand 1 you need to raise at just about every point in the hand except preflop.

Hand 2 I just shove preflop.

onehandfold 10-09-2007 11:58 PM

Re: Set and overpair plays...50NL what do you think?
 
ok i won't reraise preflop for sure
i'll tell you why
from my experience
most times when i get reraised big when i'm holding kk
the other guy had aa
more than 70 %
BUT
kk is too good of a hand to fold preflop
and there's a chance that he is a donk reraisng with qq or ak
see the flop
hit K great
when i don't hit
then more of a feel there
usually with AA
people will bet hard
cause they know i have a strong hand too

mce86 10-10-2007 12:14 AM

Re: Set and overpair plays...50NL what do you think?
 
Hand 1 you should definitely be raising the turn. You should of gone broke with this hand.

Hand 2, bet the flop.

onehandfold 10-10-2007 12:18 AM

Re: Set and overpair plays...50NL what do you think?
 
oh i think i know why i called
not raised
because of AA on the baord
if there was any other pair
i raised
but it's because of the tendency that people rarely fold ax preflop
that he might caught a lucky card and have a aaaxx
i think that went through my head
of course i didn't think that out when i played that ahnd
but subconsciously


hand 2 bet the flop???
gotta think about that
how often will AA trap there
or check raise

thinking out loud...

Chargers In 07 10-10-2007 12:20 AM

Re: Set and overpair plays...50NL what do you think?
 
wow.

[ QUOTE ]
how often will AA trap there
check raise

[/ QUOTE ] this is pretty lol considering how the hand played out.

Please listen to advice instead of being hard headed, or don't post since you know you're awesome.

onehandfold 10-10-2007 12:24 AM

Re: Set and overpair plays...50NL what do you think?
 
sorry, maybe the way i typed it...it came out wrong...im just trying to make sure everything is clear in my mind...

Panthro 10-10-2007 12:45 AM

Re: Set and overpair plays...50NL what do you think?
 
1. Go broke somewhere. Raise the flop, bet more on the turn, shove the river. No 50NL player will ever fold trip Aces.

Delphi 10-10-2007 07:30 AM

Re: Set and overpair plays...50NL what do you think?
 
Hand 1 ist horrible. You have to go broke here or your losing value the other 90% of the time where he does not have a better FH.

Hand 2 If you think he traps with AA, then why do you push the turn?

Ulkis 10-10-2007 07:41 AM

Re: Set and overpair plays...50NL what do you think?
 
Please don't post results (they don't matter) and preferably one hand at the time.

I've only played 2 weeks NL now and even I can tell your thinking is flawed big time.


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