100NL Horrible w/ AA
 

Villain in s12/3.6/4 over about 200 hands.

I am completely horrible with AA as I usually over value it post flop. Should I call the flop check raise? What to do on the turn?

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $49
UTG: $173.45
UTG+1: $69.95
MP1: $79.75
MP2: $76.25
Hero (CO): $147.60
BTN: $92.90
SB: $178.40

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG calls $1, 2 folds, MP2 calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5</font>, 3 folds, UTG calls $4, MP2 calls $4

Flop: ($16.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
UTG checks, MP2 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $25</font>, MP2 folds, Hero calls $15

Turn: ($66.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $35</font>, Hero...?

Re: Horrible w/ AA
 

IMO, with villain's stats this is an easy fold after he check raises the flop and fires again on the turn. Your flop call is fine, but you're only calling to reevaluate on the turn, and when villain fire's again on the turn you just have to assume you're beat.

Re: 100NL Horrible w/ AA
 

This board is so dry I could see folding to the check raise against this type of player. He probably isn't limping KK, QQ or even JJ from UTG. I would think he would feel skittish about firing the turn with 1010 after your flop call.

Re: 100NL Horrible w/ AA
 

I don't think there's a need to call on flop to reevaluate the turn as he is leading turn 100% of the time. Against these stats I would just fold on the flop. Remember, it's not expolitable if they don't know you folded Aces. His range is 88/99 here.

Re: 100NL Horrible w/ AA
 

IDK, would a player with 3.6 limp KK-JJ UTG? Then look to spring to life on the flop///esp a hand like JJ?
I dont know that a check raise is anyhting but typical versus a player who c-bets with a high frequency. With these samll turn bet, im calling again, and probably callin the river as well.

Re: 100NL Horrible w/ AA
 

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IDK, would a player with 3.6 limp KK-JJ UTG? Then look to spring to life on the flop///esp a hand like JJ?
I dont know that a check raise is anyhting but typical versus a player who c-bets with a high frequency. With these samll turn bet, im calling again, and probably callin the river as well.

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If he's raising the top 3.6% of hands then KK-JJ easily fall into that category. If he's only raising Aces his preflop raise would be less than 1%.

Re: 100NL Horrible w/ AA
 

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IDK, would a player with 3.6 limp KK-JJ UTG? Then look to spring to life on the flop///esp a hand like JJ?
I dont know that a check raise is anyhting but typical versus a player who c-bets with a high frequency. With these samll turn bet, im calling again, and probably callin the river as well.

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If he's raising the top 3.6% of hands then KK-JJ easily fall into that category. If he's only raising Aces his preflop raise would be less than 1%.

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But, UTG player is going to be even tighter,correct? All pockets could fall into here, and someone who raises so infrequently, would likely limp upfront with big pairs as well.
His AF is not super low either.

Re: 100NL Horrible w/ AA
 

No he wouldn't limp big pairs UTG because nits like these hate the thought of "some [censored] chaser" limping with "[censored] trash" without being "charged" for it.

Re: 100NL Horrible w/ AA
 

I'd call down.

Re: 100NL Horrible w/ AA
 

his agg is very high. but once again in nl this is a feel sorta thing. if hes a reg youll just have to fold over pairs with some frequency that you try to disguise. against this guy i try and decide how he plays jj kk qq tt. i may pay him off here tbh. aa rules!