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Superfluous Man 10-09-2007 01:16 AM

FTP 1k: TOP TOP hand that I probably screwed up
 
This is probably pretty basic, but I probably found a way to botch it. Villain seems very spewy and bluff-happy. Earlier he had called my 3-bet pf, floated my flop c-bet, then instacrammed the turn when it made the board something like 7886 and I check-folded. He had also made a large overbet shove on the flop with 2nd pair against someone and sucked out against tptk.

The plan on the turn is obviously to get him to shove and snap him off, but when that falls through, what to do on the river? Check-call? Bet? How much? Also, should I just bet a little more on the flop so I can just jam the turn and hope he calls with whatever worse 1 pair hand he has? He seemed more like the bluffy type than the cally type, but oftentimes they can be both.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $80/$160
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1815
UTG+1: $5440
Hero: $6970
MP2: $2088
MP3: $2060
CO: $4810
Button: $4375
SB: $6185
BB: $1825

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $480</font>, 3 folds, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($1200, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $800</font>, Button calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($2800, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($2800, 2 players)
???????

eBo 10-09-2007 01:19 AM

Re: FTP 1k: TOP TOP hand that I probably screwed up
 
Bet/call turn.
Standard value bet river.

Bakes 10-09-2007 01:20 AM

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ASPoker8 10-09-2007 01:22 AM

Re: FTP 1k: TOP TOP hand that I probably screwed up
 
I'm just betting every street until I get it in vs this villain.

Once he has already called pfr, floated, shoved when checked to... he's probably not doing it again right away w. air vs you.

Bond18 10-09-2007 01:26 AM

Re: FTP 1k: TOP TOP hand that I probably screwed up
 
You could do something silly like bet 40% pot on river hoping to induce shove.

Superfluous Man 10-09-2007 01:28 AM

Re: FTP 1k: TOP TOP hand that I probably screwed up
 
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Once he has already called pfr, floated, shoved when checked to... he's probably not doing it again right away w. air vs you.

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FWIW that hand was pretty early in the tournament.

(and this one is much later)

EC10 10-09-2007 11:20 AM

Re: FTP 1k: TOP TOP hand that I probably screwed up
 
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You could do something silly like bet 40% pot on river hoping to induce shove.

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this is the worst option imo.

id prob just shove. he has like a psb.

benneh 10-09-2007 02:40 PM

Re: FTP 1k: TOP TOP hand that I probably screwed up
 
i duno what i'm talkin about

registrar 10-09-2007 02:46 PM

Re: FTP 1k: TOP TOP hand that I probably screwed up
 
Stick me in the bet until broke camp. However, if I did check the turn, I probably do CR the river.

Bond18 10-09-2007 08:10 PM

Re: FTP 1k: TOP TOP hand that I probably screwed up
 
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You could do something silly like bet 40% pot on river hoping to induce shove.

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this is the worst option imo.

id prob just shove. he has like a psb.

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Sorry, thought they were deeper. In that event, then shove&gt;anything else.


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