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too eazy 10-08-2007 10:49 AM

400nl - Boring Turn Spot
 
Villain in the hand is Marccus85, he's very afraid of me and I make him sad on a regular basis. He's been playing me particularly aggressive this session and I suspect he may be on tilt.

Regardless, I'm fairly certain that with his line here he either has a flush, 33, AsXx (likely a pair) or total air. With his range being so polarized, what do you think the best course of action is here? If you choose to flat call the turn what is your river plan if checked to or if bet into.

I know it's a little boring but I think it's a spot worthy of some discussion.

Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $376
SB: $287.45
BB: $430.60
Hero (UTG): $406.10
UTG+1: $138.20
UTG+2: $377
MP1: $184.80
MP2: $243
CO: $553.20

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, 2 folds, MP1 calls $16, 4 folds, BB calls $12

Flop: ($50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $36</font>, MP1 folds, BB calls $36

Turn: ($122) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $75</font>

Results: $122 Pot ($122 Rake)

Mike Kelley 10-08-2007 11:13 AM

Re: 400nl - Boring Turn Spot
 
Call - Call - Lead is a weak line and usually a bluff.

Does he have reason to believe you would check behind here?

CalledDownLight 10-08-2007 01:41 PM

Re: 400nl - Boring Turn Spot
 
I'd fold here. You're pretty smoked and if your Ks isn't good then you're really [censored] when he leads the river spade and you call or he c/r you on the river after you bet.

AceHigh 10-08-2007 01:54 PM

Re: 400nl - Boring Turn Spot
 
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Call - Call - Lead is a weak line and usually a bluff.

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You don't think he could have a flush here?

Seems like a logical line for a draw to me.

Mike Kelley 10-08-2007 02:05 PM

Re: 400nl - Boring Turn Spot
 
Why not go for the check raise if villain is really strong?

That's why I asked if villain had reason to believe Too Eazy would check behind?

KurtSF 10-08-2007 02:13 PM

Re: 400nl - Boring Turn Spot
 
Isn't WA/WB usually super-passive mode?

Its a little tricky if a [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] falls on the river because you just sucked out on a good part of his range and fell behind the rest.

My knee jerk is to call down. But given stack sizes that's pretty much getting it in, and I hate calling shoves with weak hands. Yeah, I'm kinda torn.

Renton 10-08-2007 02:13 PM

Re: 400nl - Boring Turn Spot
 
if he's on tilt i'd probably make a call.

Mike Kelley 10-08-2007 02:34 PM

Re: 400nl - Boring Turn Spot
 
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if he's on tilt i'd probably make a call.

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Renton,

Would you fold to a river shove on a blank card?

too eazy 10-08-2007 02:40 PM

Re: 400nl - Boring Turn Spot
 
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if he's on tilt i'd probably make a call.

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Renton,

Would you fold to a river shove on a blank card?

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AceHigh 10-08-2007 02:43 PM

Re: 400nl - Boring Turn Spot
 
A small flush would have to bet the turn wouldn't he? He wouldn't want to give a free card to a hand with like AsJc or whatever.


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