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Xylocain 10-07-2007 07:45 PM

JTo Aggro Vil in blind defence.
 
Vilan is a bit loosish and have shown some unwarranted agression (he will 3-bet 99 in SB against a limp and a raise (std?)) but will slow down in on the big streets with scary boards. If I check pf, he will bet the flop.

Heros image is probably a bit weak again (having folded turn or river after pfr a couple of times but its only my 2nd orbit)

25.0/9.6/3.8 over 52 hands.


Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.25/$0.5
8 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (8 players) Xylocain is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
6 folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Xylocain raises</font>, SB calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4SB, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Xylocain bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, Xylocain ??? and what is our plan?

Aaron W. 10-07-2007 08:04 PM

Re: JTo Aggro Vil in blind defence.
 
[ QUOTE ]
If I check pf, he will bet the flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

Check preflop. You want the implied odds he's offering.

KyndGroove 10-07-2007 08:06 PM

Re: JTo Aggro Vil in blind defence.
 
Definitely calling the flop.

If the turn blanks, I'm calling hes bet getting 5:1 w/ 4 strong outs in the non-club Js and Ks plus 5 more decent outs in the other K, J, and 3 Ts, and maybe the best hand if he's still betting the FD.

If I had to put him on a range it would probably be Ax and FD w/ maybe Kx and Qx if you read him to be that aggro on the flop in blind defense situation. I think the broadway hands that might make us discount the Ts are unlikely since he didn't raise PF.

Bona 10-07-2007 08:17 PM

Re: JTo Aggro Vil in blind defence.
 
Looks like the safe way is calling but folding here may be OK.

We have some outs and PS gives us 66% equity against the top 30% of starting hands.

The problem with calling down is we will usually win one less bet on the end than we will lose. That sort of eats up that pot equity against an aggressive player (I think?).

If we try to raise this against this guy we could really get in trouble with it.

I guess I'm game for looking at one more card. Call here and fold or check through an UI turn. This kind of situation may be why I suck at poker.

Landonfan 10-07-2007 08:27 PM

Re: JTo Aggro Vil in blind defence.
 
Will he limp Ax here pf?

I think I call down. Though I agree with Aaron about just checking pf.

Gary Frates 10-07-2007 09:49 PM

Re: JTo Aggro Vil in blind defence.
 
I think I'd fold this.

scpi10 10-08-2007 02:15 AM

Re: JTo Aggro Vil in blind defence.
 
What about a 3bet for a free card play on the turn?
I've never tried this line,I just thought I would float the idea.

Sushiglutton 10-08-2007 04:02 AM

Re: JTo Aggro Vil in blind defence.
 
Here is a basic principle: If villain puts in too many bets post-flop keep the pot small with weak hands. Since villain is aggro he will win this hand more often than you will so putting in a raise pf is a loser.

I call the flopå CR and may call down, but ifa club falls I'm done. I think it's unlikely he limped/called an A pf. More likely to besome suited junk.


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