gettting max value vs agg - 200nl
 

Villain is 22/12/9 over 145 at this table, no other reads
I've been running 23/18/3 over the same 145

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $603.65
BB: $473.05
Hero (UTG): $331.90
MP: $259.70
CO: $120.45
BTN: $43.05

Pre-Flop: 3http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif 3http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $28</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $20

Flop: ($58) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5http://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $36</font>, Hero calls $36

Turn: ($130) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $90</font>

Should I call the turn and call / push river, or should I push the turn?

I figured that if he's got an Ace, the stacks will go in no matter what, but if he doesn't have an Ace then I get more value by smooth calling turn and giving him a chance to bet river again... He's got a really high AF.

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"if he doesn't have an Ace"
Than he's usually drawing, big draw (FD or better) or 2-5 Outer.
I don't like getting outdrawed here, especially if u think he stacks with an A, than calling turn A makes no sene imho.

AND it's just 145 hands, you have no reason to think, that he's capable of 3-barreling.

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Definitely call.

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"if he doesn't have an Ace"
Than he's usually drawing, big draw (FD or better) or 2-5 Outer.
I don't like getting outdrawed here.

AND it's just 145 hands, you have no reason to think, that he's capable of 3-barreling.

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I think he's got a hand. I just don't know how much heat it can take.

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i woulda played the flop real fast against those stats, but as played there's nothing you can do besides call really... raising is pretty bad here.
when you just call here, money goes in on the riv like SOOOOO much of the time, but if you raise he could easiliy put you on AT and fold a [censored] ton of hands.

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i woulda played the flop real fast against those stats

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even 150BBs deep after i pfr call from ep?

i think if i play the flop fast my hand is 100% face up on that board

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Do you guys think he stacks off with AJ at the river if you call?
I doubt that.

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just calling the turn is really transparent too imo.

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Do you guys think he stacks off with AJ-AK at the river if you call?
I doubt that.

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he's less likely to call a turn push then to block / call, block / fold, or check / call river w/ those hand imo

Re: gettting max value vs agg
 

If he's BLOCK betting the river than he's really bad and u get his stack most of times anyway from his A