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Saliba1982 10-06-2007 11:29 PM

what would you have done?
 
Hi Guys,
Just wanted to get a few opinions on this hand as im trying to fix some gaps in my game.
To most of you this will probably seem like a "fish" call but we were all at that stage one day.
After reviewing the hand i still think i may do the same thing again.
I only have 15 hands logged on Poker Tracker for the Villain and at the moment it shows VP$IP at 20.00
What would you guys have done in this situation?



POKERSTARS GAME #12429598920: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/10/04 - 09:08:03 (ET)
Table 'Academia' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: kirkov ($217.45 in chips)
Seat 2: saliba1982 ($87.10 in chips)
Seat 3: pinchy ($200 in chips)
Seat 4: Huha ($233.20 in chips)
Seat 5: CountBoncho ($157 in chips)
Seat 6: Casilud ($162.65 in chips)
pinchy: posts small blind $1
Huha: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to saliba1982 [Kd Ad]
CountBoncho: calls $2
Casilud: folds
kirkov: folds
saliba1982: raises $2 to $4
pinchy: folds
Huha: raises $10 to $14
CountBoncho: folds
saliba1982: calls $10
*** FLOP *** [Qh As Qc]
Huha: bets $14
saliba1982: raises $36 to $50
Huha: calls $36
*** TURN *** [Qh As Qc] [Td]
Huha: checks
saliba1982: bets $23.10 and is all-in
Huha: calls $23.10
*** RIVER *** [Qh As Qc Td] [4s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Huha: shows [Qd Qs] (four of a kind, Queens)
saliba1982: mucks hand
Huha collected $174.20 from pot

gregorio 10-06-2007 11:49 PM

Re: what would you have done?
 
First, I wouldn't play a 40BB stack. Second, I would convert the hand history.

PF you should raise to 5BB. But if you are playing a short stack and flop TP with AK, I think you have to go bust here.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $217.45
Hero (BTN): $87.10
SB: $200
BB: $233.20
UTG: $157
MP: $162.65

Pre-Flop: Khttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Ahttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $2, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $14</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls $10

Flop: ($31) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Qhttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $14</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $50</font>, BB calls $36

Turn: ($131) Thttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $23.10 and is All-In</font>, BB calls $23.10

River: ($177.20) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $177.20 Pot ($177.20 Rake)
Hero showed Khttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Ahttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif and LOST (-$87.10 NET)
BB showed and LOST (-$87.10 NET)

JereLock 10-07-2007 12:21 AM

Re: what would you have done?
 
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Small Fry 10-07-2007 01:30 AM

Re: what would you have done?
 
I probably would have ben all in on preflop. Preflop I would have raised to 9. He then probably reraises to 30. I go all in.

If it's not all in pre flop then it's hard to imagine what your ahead of on the flop that will call any bets, much less lead out into you and then call your raise.

As played I think you have to realize you're behind on the flop, Assuming your opponent is a rational player, although I'll readily admit folding is goingto be really tough.

Saliba1982 10-07-2007 10:39 AM

Re: what would you have done?
 
thanks everyone, thanks for the hand history converter too, ill definately be using that.
yeah i still dont think i played that hand wrong, what do you guys think? overall did i make a bad move?

Dalek 10-07-2007 11:48 AM

Re: what would you have done?
 
I would raise more pre-flop and would shove the flop. Your raise on the flop took most of your stack and you had just over $23 on the turn when the pot was over $130.

I don't think you could get away from this hand with stack sizes as they were. His pre-flop re-raise means usually JJ+/AK, maybe AQ. On the flop his bet may be a continuation bet and with your hand i would shove. When he calls your re-raise it is likely you are beaten by a full house or possibly quads. On the turn you are pot commited, all you can do is shove.

BlindFinder 10-07-2007 01:27 PM

Re: what would you have done?
 
[ QUOTE ]
First, I wouldn't play a 40BB stack. Second, I would convert the hand history.

PF you should raise to 5BB. But if you are playing a short stack and flop TP with AK, I think you have to go bust here.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $217.45
Hero (BTN): $87.10
SB: $200
BB: $233.20
UTG: $157
MP: $162.65

Pre-Flop: Khttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Ahttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $2, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">BB raises to $14</font>, UTG folds, Hero calls $10

Flop: ($31) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Qhttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/club.gif (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $14</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $50</font>, BB calls $36

Turn: ($131) Thttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $23.10 and is All-In</font>, BB calls $23.10

River: ($177.20) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: $177.20 Pot ($177.20 Rake)
Hero showed Khttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif Ahttp://www.legopoker.com/hh/images/diamond.gif and LOST (-$87.10 NET)
BB showed and LOST (-$87.10 NET)

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