Razz $1/$2 - 3rd street capped and 4 see 4th
 

Should hero raise or call 5th?

Razz ($1/$2), Ante $0.20, Bring-In $0.25 (converter)

3rd Street - (1.60 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in___folds
Seat 2: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 3: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___calls___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___completes___raises___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises___raises
Seat 7: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 8: xx xx 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (17.85 SB)

Seat 3: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 6: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls

5th Street - (10.93 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Seat 6: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Seat 7: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets

Re: Razz $1/$2 - 3rd street capped and 4 see 4th
 

Raise all day long.

Re: Razz $1/$2 - 3rd street capped and 4 see 4th
 

Yeah and it's not even close. Why would you just call?

Re: Razz $1/$2 - 3rd street capped and 4 see 4th
 

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Yeah and it's not even close. Why would you just call?

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That's what I asked myself about 5 seconds after I just called. It's been bugging me - I was wondering if there is any possible justification for the way I played it. I need to raise to get 6th seat out of the hand, maximize my value from seat 7 who is probably staying in no matter what. Seat 3 I am little concerned about but probably shouldn't be because they probably would have raised here.

Anyways - 6th and 7th went like this:

b]5th Street[/b] - (10.93 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 6: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 7: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets

6th Street - (14.93 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 6: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___calls

River - (17.93 BB)

Seat 3: xx xx 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] xx___checks___calls
Hero: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 7: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] xx___checks___calls

Total pot: (20.93 BB - $41.85)

Re: Razz $1/$2 - 3rd street capped and 4 see 4th
 

You played sixth and seventh very well.

Fifth is a cake raise. Basically, everyone has a four-card hand. It is extremely unlikely that anyone's King or pair card is going to figure in a winning hand. You have the best four-card hand. Act accordingly.

Re: Razz $1/$2 - 3rd street capped and 4 see 4th
 

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You played sixth and seventh very well.

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[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] I think it was all the butt clenching.


I think 5th is a prime example of me needing to sit back and think things through a little more when I'm playing. I didn't instacall but it was pretty fast

Re: Razz $1/$2 - 3rd street capped and 4 see 4th
 

I've had this basic hand happen about 10 times tonight. I've lost every single one of them, but I still keep raising 5th in spots like this. It evens out over time but man it sucks when it doesn't come through for you.

nh sir

Re: Razz $1/$2 - 3rd street capped and 4 see 4th
 

raise raise raise

Re: Razz $1/$2 - 3rd street capped and 4 see 4th
 

raisy daisy.

Nice wheel. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: Razz $1/$2 - 3rd street capped and 4 see 4th
 

I play better live than I do online. One reason is that live games move more slowly, and I'm a slow, plodding thinker. I think that's also the primary reason that I post better than I play.