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Pouncer 10-05-2007 11:37 PM

AcTc at Final Table ($9.90)
 
Final table of $9.90/360 on Stars. I was stealing my fair share, not significantly tighter or looser than anyone else.

What do y'all do with this hand? Fold pre-flop? Raise more, or less? Fold to raise? Shove? Typical raise at this table was 3x BB.

I don't play many tourneys and wasn't sure how wide villains range was. Villain is SB. I am UTG+1.

Note there is a t400 ante and it is 7 handed.

PokerStars Game #12389028447: Tournament #62647156, $9.00+$0.90 Hold'em No Limit
- Level XVI (2000/4000) - 2007/10/02 - 01:24:59 (ET)
Table '62647156 29' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: xxxx (78304 in chips) BUTTON
Seat 2: Villain (91227 in chips) SB
Seat 3: xxxx (46294 in chips)
Seat 4: xxxx (117423 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero (53146 in chips)
Seat 7: xxxx (63360 in chips)
Seat 9: xxxx (90246 in chips)

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero: raises 8000 to 12000
3 players fold
Villain: raises 36000 to 48000

Any thoughts at any stage appreciated.

benneh 10-05-2007 11:49 PM

Re: AcTc at Final Table ($9.90)
 
in general, I like to shove with your stack size with this size of blinds if i'm opening any pots. even though we do have a SMALL bit of room to play on the flop, i don't like folding with 45k behind when there's ~30-35k in the pot with a good hand like you have when I miss and we typically don't have much fold equity if villain hits anything.

do you have any read on SB? is he a donk, has he shoved over your or anyone elses raises before? how tight is he in the blinds?

villain has a very nice stack and has no reason to really put anything at risk against a UTG+1 raiser who can hurt him. his raise size seems like he doesn't really want a call, but stack sizes are so small, that kind of information is pretty irrelevant. i might put his range at 66+, AJo+, A9s+, KQo, KQs.

i duno, i suck at making ranges when there's no reads. you should definitely have one by now, no?

ps, I fold cause i'm a nit (though i would have shoved initially)

erc007 10-06-2007 12:07 AM

Re: AcTc at Final Table ($9.90)
 
If the table has been playing tight, i raise to 8K from EP and fold if i'm 3-bet. As played easy fold.

omg im l337 10-06-2007 02:37 AM

Re: AcTc at Final Table ($9.90)
 
Was this the one on stars tonight? What's your SN? I busted in 15th.

hamnegger 10-06-2007 03:48 AM

Re: AcTc at Final Table ($9.90)
 
i fold . he's putting in 1/2 stack. expect to be dominated . by folding we can still make a run or at least move up. we are one dbl up from being on level rest of the table. otherwise shove in the first place.

AMT 10-06-2007 09:45 AM

Re: AcTc at Final Table ($9.90)
 
open jam PF

black666 10-06-2007 10:34 AM

Re: AcTc at Final Table ($9.90)
 
[ QUOTE ]
open jam PF

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With 6 people to go through??

radii 10-06-2007 10:59 AM

Re: AcTc at Final Table ($9.90)
 
[ QUOTE ]
If the table has been playing tight, i raise to 8K from EP and fold if i'm 3-bet. As played easy fold.

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What do you do if you get called? I assume you either push or check/fold depending on the flop? The BB is getting 4:1 to see a flop if you min-raise, isn't that going to happen quite often? I guess what I'm really wondering is how often a final table is tight enough that this min-raise will work.



Put me in the 'shove PF' camp. You're UTG+1 so you only have 5 to get through, your M is 6 w/ the blinds coming fast. Raising and then folding to the re-raise hurts, dropping your M to 4.5 with the blinds hitting in one more hand. Given the PF raise though, I think its better than calling here, I hate calling for all my chips w/ AT.


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